Of all the ancient catholic “fathers” I’ve read, Origen (c.185-254) is the most impressive as a scholar. It’s not that I usually agree with him – any non-Platonist is going to choke on many of the dishes he’s serving, and I think that most today would take issue for some his ways of interpreting the Bible. […]
Against Celsus is not the only important surviving book by Origen. Origen’s On First Principles is often called the first systematic Christian theology. It was written some time before 231. It is a bold and wide-ranging work, and in Origen’s day Christian theologians could speculate a fair amount. But the curtain was brought down on […]
Origen, many other ancient catholics, takes the Word (logos) of John 1 to be the pre-human Jesus. For the record, I don’t think that is correct. But I won’t contest it here. In the quotes here, he’s commenting on “And the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” This is from an long […]
An interesting little exchange between Origen and the pagan critic Celsus about the god of Christians.
In this follow-up post, three factors that make Rufinus’ corruption of Origen’s On First Principles all the more egregious. First, after recklessly changing anything he doesn’t like in translating Origen’s book, absurdly claiming that anything Origen says that doesn’t comport with the (then) new Nicene orthodoxy must have been changed by heretics, and lyingly (or idiotically) claiming to have […]
I’ve been working on my Trinities book today, and have been reading a lot of Origen (d. c. 253) lately. As is well known, most of his famous On First Principles (kindle, hardback) has been lost in the original Greek, but we have a “complete” copy of a Latin translation made by Rufinus of Aquileia […]
The pagan polytheistic monotheist Celsus presses the attack we looked at last time. If you [Christians] taught them that Jesus is not his [God’s] Son, but that God is the father of all, all that we really ought to worship him [God] alone, they [Christians] would no longer be willing to listen to you unless […]
Celsus was a pagan philosopher, essentially a cultural and religious conservative, who wrote a book attacking Christianity, perhaps around 177-80 (though some have argued that it must be no later than 161). Decades later, it is not clear exactly why, the great Christian scholar Origen (182-254) wrote a massive refutation of this book, quoting substantial […]
Is the Doctrine of the Trinity articulated in the New Testament?
How and why did American Unitarian Congregationalism die?
Play / pause 1x 1.5x 2x 0:00 0:00 00:47:17 volume podcast 24 – How to be a Monotheistic Trinitarian iTunesGoogle PlayShare Leave a ReviewClammr ItListen in a New WindowDownloadSoundCloudStitcherSubscribe on AndroidSubscribe via RSS Do you think unsurpassably “classic” thought about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, is from c. 370-460? In this paper, I argue […]
Daniel Calder surveys the Top 7 weirdest Christian theologians. Of these, how many are atheists? Consider, for example, John Scotus Eriugena (c.800 – c.877). The author gives an encyclopedia quote which rings true to me. In general, the system of thought just outlined is a combination of neo-Platonic mysticism, emanationism, and pantheism which Eriugena strove in […]
Here’s one reason why some theologians love to appeal to “mystery.” Regarding the second half of the second Christian century, the great church history von Harnack observes, …an urgent impulse necessarily made itself felt to define the contents and value of the Redeemer’s life and work, not, primarily, from the point of view of the proclamation […]
At the Journal of Analytic Philosophy, and at the Journal of Biblical Unitarianism. Thanks to the editors of both journals for their good work. The first paper continues the discussion with Hasker of my “Divine Deception” arguments against three-self Trinity theories. I discuss there the monotheism of Isaiah. Then I get into interesting arguments by […]
As we saw last time, Burke in round 5 argues like this: 2nd c. catholic theology was predominantly subordinationist. If the apostles had taught the Trinity, this wouldn’t have been so. Therefore, the apostles did not teach the Trinity. In a long comment (#23) Bowman objects, For some reason… anti-Trinitarians think it is bad news […]
Confronted with the total lack of evidence for pre-Nicene belief in a tripersonal God composed of equally divine “Persons,” with the evidence that mainstream Christians in the first three centuries assumed and asserted the numerical identity of the one God with the Father (only), and with the observation of many scholars of all stripes that […]