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	<title>Comments on: The Orthodox Formulas 2: The Council of Constantinople (381)</title>
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	<description>theories about the father, son, and holy spirit</description>
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		<title>By: trinities - Trinity Monotheism Part 9: Some final thoughts and objections</title>
		<link>http://trinities.org/blog/archives/49/comment-page-1#comment-39538</link>
		<dc:creator>trinities - Trinity Monotheism Part 9: Some final thoughts and objections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As far as I know, no mainstream trinitarian in the history of Christianity would settle for the Son being &#8220;fully divine&#8221; just in the sense of being a distinctive part of, or a mind of a divine thing. (Although, if you accept divine simplicity, you&#8217;ll say all God&#8217;s properties are one another, and each is &#8220;the same as&#8221; God. - but they reject Simplicity, rightly, I think.) Thus even if it succeeds, Trinity Monotheism isn&#8217;t a version of or metaphysical elaboration of the historic doctrine, as it aims to be. That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s false; rather, it&#8217;s just wrong-headed to offer it as anything other than a major doctrinal revision. This is a minor point, as I think they admit it&#8217;s a revision, as they ditch divine simplicity, immutability, timelessness, and the generation and procession doctrines. There&#8217;s a tension here; if parts of the Catholic Tradition are dispensible, why try so hard to preserve the Athanasian Creed and the Creed of Constantinople? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As far as I know, no mainstream trinitarian in the history of Christianity would settle for the Son being &#8220;fully divine&#8221; just in the sense of being a distinctive part of, or a mind of a divine thing. (Although, if you accept divine simplicity, you&#8217;ll say all God&#8217;s properties are one another, and each is &#8220;the same as&#8221; God. &#8211; but they reject Simplicity, rightly, I think.) Thus even if it succeeds, Trinity Monotheism isn&#8217;t a version of or metaphysical elaboration of the historic doctrine, as it aims to be. That doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s false; rather, it&#8217;s just wrong-headed to offer it as anything other than a major doctrinal revision. This is a minor point, as I think they admit it&#8217;s a revision, as they ditch divine simplicity, immutability, timelessness, and the generation and procession doctrines. There&#8217;s a tension here; if parts of the Catholic Tradition are dispensible, why try so hard to preserve the Athanasian Creed and the Creed of Constantinople? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Islam-Inspired Modalism - Part 3 at trinities</title>
		<link>http://trinities.org/blog/archives/49/comment-page-1#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>Islam-Inspired Modalism - Part 3 at trinities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 16:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While all elements of the Constantinopolitan creed are affirmed, the main interest is really the ontological status of Jesus (fully divine, and fully human), the main motive being that Christians must believe in a Jesus who is worthy of worship. (62-4, 77-9, 103-4) The doctrine of the Incarnation is also a mystery to be adored. (103-4). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While all elements of the Constantinopolitan creed are affirmed, the main interest is really the ontological status of Jesus (fully divine, and fully human), the main motive being that Christians must believe in a Jesus who is worthy of worship. (62-4, 77-9, 103-4) The doctrine of the Incarnation is also a mystery to be adored. (103-4). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: charderman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wrapping Up!</title>
		<link>http://trinities.org/blog/archives/49/comment-page-1#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>charderman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wrapping Up!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have a few follow up items to post and then more on what&#8217;s been going on lately. I posted about IE7 having a problem rendering my friend&#8217;s site. This was not entirely the case, apparently he had copied some bad code for a post and it broke the site for several browsers. I also posted about Windows Vista Crashing on me and that was a two-fold problem. First was a hard drive problem, which is not a problem with vista but a physical problem with my computer, second was an unsupported piece of software I was running since windows 95 and should not have even tried on this machine. So hurry for me nothing bad to report about microsoft, I love the new release of Vista and IE7, infact I would go as far as to say if you have an illegal copy of windows running on a machine upgrading to a real copy is worth it just for IE7. NO I DO NOT GET PAID BY MICROSOFT! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have a few follow up items to post and then more on what&#8217;s been going on lately. I posted about IE7 having a problem rendering my friend&#8217;s site. This was not entirely the case, apparently he had copied some bad code for a post and it broke the site for several browsers. I also posted about Windows Vista Crashing on me and that was a two-fold problem. First was a hard drive problem, which is not a problem with vista but a physical problem with my computer, second was an unsupported piece of software I was running since windows 95 and should not have even tried on this machine. So hurry for me nothing bad to report about microsoft, I love the new release of Vista and IE7, infact I would go as far as to say if you have an illegal copy of windows running on a machine upgrading to a real copy is worth it just for IE7. NO I DO NOT GET PAID BY MICROSOFT! [...]</p>
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