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  1. trinities - Arius and Athanasius, part 7 - Athanasius on natural procreation (JT)
    March 31, 2009 @ 5:51 am

    […] the last two posts, I explained that Arius believes the Son is created from nothing. Athanasius, for his […]

  2. trinities - Arius and Athanasius, part 6 – Arius on the Son’s creation (JT)
    March 28, 2009 @ 6:48 am

    […] Last time, I explained that Arius believes there can only be one unproduced producer, and that’s the Father. The Son, by consequence, is produced, but there’s nothing controversial about saying that. Arius gets controversial when he tries to explain how the Son is produced. As Arius sees it, if the Father produced the Son with any ‘pre-existing ingredients’, he’d either have to use created ingredients, or he’d have to use some ingredient taken from within himself (those are the only two options). But Arius thinks neither of these are open to the Father. […]