Dale Tuggy

Dale Tuggy is Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Fredonia, where he teaches courses in analytic theology, philosophy of religion, religious studies, and the history of philosophy.

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  1. books 25% off (Dale) » trinities
    December 4, 2011 @ 11:56 pm

    […] David James, A Short View of the Tenets of Tritheists, Sabellians, Trinitarians, Arians, and Socinians. – a short, irenic survey of various Christian theologies, in the end making a case for mutual tolerance, and for subordinationist unitarianism. Here’s a post with some quotes. […]

  2. John
    November 28, 2011 @ 2:25 am

    Hi Dale
    Sorry to be a little sloppy there!
    I guess that what I was assuming that no self-consistent theory of the Trinity is consistent with two points
    (i) That the one God of the O.T. and the N.T.is the same person or ‘self’ as the Father
    (ii) That the Father is someone other than Jesus
    There are those who disagree – but they resort to incredible (literally) gymnastics to make their points.
    As aye
    John

  3. Dale
    November 27, 2011 @ 3:08 pm

    “logically inconsistent”

    It depends. If the formula can’t be understood, they can’t be understood to be inconsistent. And many Christian philosophers have suggested ways to understand the formula which are, arguably, self-consistent. The real rub, I think, comes in whether or not any such doctrine is in, or is supportable by the Bible.

    I wouldn’t be completely hostile to mystery-talk; Paul uses it a lot in sense (i) above.

    Thanks for the comments, John!

  4. John
    November 24, 2011 @ 1:21 am

    Hi Dale
    You mentioned in an earlier blog that you were working on a paper on the subject of ‘Mystery”

    As you stated in your previous writings
    A mystery is said to be
    (i) A precious truth which has been hidden
    (ii)Something un-intelligible
    (iii)Something that cannot be understood

    Such matters are said to be contained in the
    “inspired” scriptures -but not clearly understood.

    The concept of “Father Christmas” is NOT a mystery – He is a product of human imagination.

    The Doctrine of the Trinity is NOT a mystery since it is a product of human reason and speculation
    (i) It is not in the scriptures
    (ii)It is logically inconsistant

    For these reasons one cannot accuse a person who cannot believe in the Doctrine of the Trinity of ‘lacking in faith’ (any more than one would accuse a person of refusing to believe in Father Christmas of the same lack of faith)

    The ‘Mystery’ is that something which cannot be grasped is central to orthodox Christian beliefs.

    Every Blessing
    John