Dale Tuggy

Dale Tuggy is Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Fredonia, where he teaches courses in analytic theology, philosophy of religion, religious studies, and the history of philosophy.


  1. John Thomas
    October 21, 2017 @ 1:54 pm

    Yeah a person can be stranded in an island for his entire life time and can be still be a loving person in his nature. He might be able to manifest that love when another person comes to the island. I don’t see any logical inconsistency in that scenario. Besides, as you said, God is considered a maximally great being. So God has the properties higher than any best human being imaginable. So I really don’t see the validity of this type of argument other than the need to postulate a mutipersonal being as God.


  2. Jon
    October 20, 2017 @ 9:01 pm

    Dale, what’s ironic is that, the passage used by many people (and I’ve had this argument on carm.org before from someone who tried to bring the same reasoning as Steve Hays here) to say that “God is love”, tacking on things pertaining to love to His nature, is, in John, pertaining to how He is TOWARDS US. As such, we wonder: did we exist from all time, since God, being love, has shown such a great love to us?

    I suppose that the counter idea would be that, since we have come to know the love that God has for us (which He had because He always had someone to love), we can truly love someone too, since we had that love extended to us in Him offering His Son. We would ask, “so why then did He create us?” Also, since love from us sourcing from Him is able to, at a point in time, be initiated; then why must it be considered absolutely relational in regard to Him? If there always needs to be something to love, then we wonder about the Father and the Son’s relationship, and how God loves that Jesus does what He likes. So, could God have loved His own righteousness and everyone could have been included in love based on these things. Jesus seems to put a lot of emphasis on the Father being the good teacher, being the ordinator,(spell check doesn’t recognize that word) etc.


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