Dale Tuggy

Dale Tuggy is Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Fredonia, where he teaches courses in analytic theology, philosophy of religion, religious studies, and the history of philosophy.

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  1. Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God? Avicenna and Aquinas on God’s Oneness | The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast | A Philosophy Podcast and Blog
    May 12, 2016 @ 8:01 am

    […] and Islam. Christian analytic philosophers such as Francis Beckwith, Michael Rea, Edward Feser, and Dale Tuggy have argued on behalf of Professor Hawkins, saying that there is a definite sense in which […]

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    January 22, 2016 @ 10:44 am

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  6. “Allah” or “God”: Does it Matter? | Eclectic Orthodoxy
    December 22, 2015 @ 11:07 pm

    […] their thoughts on this topic: “On Worshipping the Same God” by Michael Rea and “God, Allah, George Washington, and Eric Clapton” by Dale Tuggy, along with Tuggy’s follow-up piece “God, Allah, and Mistaken […]

  7. Aaron King
    December 22, 2015 @ 10:33 pm

    My problem, Dale, is that at some point simply using the same words with one another can’t suffice to actually mean the same thing. I’m not claiming to know where that line in the sand is (that is, the line between a disagreement about the same God VS just having 2 differing gods) but below I have an example.

    Another man says he has the same father that I have. I disagree. He insists. So I say, “Prey tell, what is your father like?” He responds by telling me the approximate height, weight, and hair color of his father. He says his father loves pizza, is a hard worker as he works 60 hours per week, and so on and so forth. I respond by saying my father is much shorter than his, weighs less, and has a differing hair color. My father hates pizza, is a lazy bum, and so on down the line. Now, I say, “See? We have different fathers.” He responds by saying, “No, we have the same father, the one who impregnated our mother!” At this point, his claim is meaningless. Much the same is the catchphrase of, “See! We worship the God of Abraham. The One who created the heavens and the earth.” Well, OK. If he doesn’t require the same thing of mankind as the Biblical God, judges differently, gives mercy differently, has no Son, loves different things than the Biblical God and hates different things as well, approves of multiple wives and etc. then I really can’t take seriously that it’s the same god. In fact, I’m not so sure I even think all Muslims worship the same god…but that’s opening a can of worms I guess.

    I don’t have a problem saying that Jews have the same God as Christians for two big reasons. First, in the case of Jews and Christians we as Christians are simply saying we have insight into *more* truths about the same God than they do. We don’t have outright contradictory teachings about God that they don’t have. Even the Trinity doctrine can be said to be a new revelation about the Jewish God’s mode of existence, not a contradiction to a previous revelation. Second, Jesus told the Samaritan woman that she “worshiped what she did not know” but that “we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” I would say that now Jews are in the same position as Samaritans were then. That is, Jews are worshiping someone whom they do not know, because salvation, and knowing God, only come through faith in Jesus Christ.

    If anyone disagrees, I think you’re right. It’s not a big concession. At most it means that “Allah” in Islam really refers to the same “Allah” as Arabic speaking Christians but doesn’t mean that Islam is in any way from God.

  8. Roman
    December 21, 2015 @ 4:33 am

    You can usually tell if these American evangelicals (usually quite right wing) are honest and consistant in saying that the Allah that muslims worship is not the same God that Christians worship by asking them if the God Christians worship is the same God jews worship, if they say no, they ok, they are being consistant, if they say yes it’s a good indication that the insistance that the God of Muslims is different is more political and based in bigotry than sound theology.
    The God of Islam and Judaism are Unitarian, Christians are (generally trinitarian), the God of islam and Judaism is completely transcendant, the God of Christians (usually) became imenant in the incarnation, the God of Islam and Judaism is not a man, punishes or rewards based on actions and so on.
    The fact is most rabbinic jews would say that their concept of God is much closer to the Islamic concept than the Christian, yet many Christians insist that the God of Judaism is the same as the God of Christianity, and fankly it’s often for purely political reasons.
    I get why People have a problem With Islam, I do as well, it’s a false religion, but we have to be serious about it, and think Things through and be consistant.