{"id":1336,"date":"2010-04-17T04:42:38","date_gmt":"2010-04-17T08:42:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=1336"},"modified":"2015-01-24T09:20:24","modified_gmt":"2015-01-24T14:20:24","slug":"scotus-on-richard-of-st-victor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/scotus-on-richard-of-st-victor\/","title":{"rendered":"Scotus on Richard of St. Victor?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_1337\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1337\" style=\"width: 216px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1337 \" style=\"border: 11px solid white;\" title=\"Duns Scotus manuscript pic\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Duns-Scotus-manuscript.jpg\" alt=\"Duns Scotus manuscript pic\" width=\"216\" height=\"313\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Duns-Scotus-manuscript.jpg 216w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Duns-Scotus-manuscript-207x300.jpg 207w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Duns-Scotus-manuscript-90x130.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 216px) 100vw, 216px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1337\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">They call me &#8220;The More Than Subtle Doctor.&#8221; You can call me Johnnie Boy.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>A postscript to our Richard series: I was reading the interesting and dense <strong><a title=\"Scheeben book\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0824524306\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Mysteries of Christianity<\/em><\/a><\/strong>, by 19th c. German Catholic theologian Joseph Scheeben, on Richard of St. Victor, and he says the following in a footnote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Scotus states decisively that Richard of St. Victor adduces <em>rationes necessariae<\/em> for the Trinity, but not <em>evidenter necessariae<\/em>, because the principles from which he argues are not evident. Cf. <em>III Sent<\/em>., d.24, q.un., no.20; <em>I Sent.<\/em>, d.42, q.un., no. 4; <em>Reportata<\/em>, prol., no. 18. (p. 29, fn. 11)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I <em>assume<\/em> that Scotus&#8217;s point is the Richard&#8217;s arguments are valid, but that each has at least one unknown premise (making them not real &#8220;proofs&#8221; or demonstrations).<strong> But I lack the time and Latin ability to chase down these quotes and translate them.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> Anyone else care enough about this to do it?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re not a trinities contributor, this could be <strong>a guest post opportunity<\/strong>. The task: read the above passages, translate the relevant bits, share the translated bits and the point of them with us here.<\/p>\n<p>Is Scheeben correct in saying that these objections are decisive? If you&#8217;re interested, email me.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A postscript to our Richard series: I was reading the interesting and dense The Mysteries of Christianity, by 19th c. German Catholic theologian Joseph Scheeben, on Richard of St. Victor, and he says the following in a footnote: Scotus states decisively that Richard of St. Victor adduces rationes necessariae for the Trinity, but not evidenter&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/scotus-on-richard-of-st-victor\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Scotus on Richard of St. Victor?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1337,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[14,9,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1336","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-history","category-philosophy","category-quotes"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1336"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34646,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1336\/revisions\/34646"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1337"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1336"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1336"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1336"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}