{"id":2078,"date":"2012-04-08T16:21:09","date_gmt":"2012-04-08T20:21:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=2078"},"modified":"2020-10-12T19:22:44","modified_gmt":"2020-10-13T00:22:44","slug":"christological-rhetoric","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/christological-rhetoric\/","title":{"rendered":"A Lesson in Christological Rhetoric"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2079\" style=\"border: 11px solid white;\" title=\"Weaselwords\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Weaselwords.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Weaselwords.png 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Weaselwords-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Weaselwords-90x90.png 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><strong>You say that<\/strong><strong> you want to argue for a &#8220;high&#8221; christology<\/strong>, for something widely considered to be a mainstream Christian understanding of Jesus.<strong> My advice is: be careful <\/strong>&#8211; if you say too much, you&#8217;ll open yourself up to refutation, and your claim will appear implausible, or too contentious and theoretical, or you&#8217;ll at least invite questions you have no intention of answering. <strong>How, then, to state your thesis?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Jesus is <strong>God himself<\/strong>&#8220;? Sounds heretical (suggests they&#8217;re the same person, and not merely the same being, and that the Son and Father are the same person). Plus, sounds a bit too strong.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Jesus <strong>has the divine nature<\/strong>&#8220;? What&#8217;s a divine nature? Who knows? Help! Is there a metaphysician in the house? You don&#8217;t want to go there &#8211; legions of nature-theories are lurking in the shadows, nipping and growling at one another, and at you.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Jesus is <strong>a member of the Trinity<\/strong>&#8220;? Good and vague &#8211; but it raises that whole Trinity issue. Better to sidestep that one.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Jesus is <strong>included in the identity of God<\/strong>.&#8221; Mysterious, but not in a good way. <em>Plenty<\/em> unclear, but sounds too high-falootin&#8217;, too academic &#8211; like something Brian McLaren would write. Too newly minted. You can retreat to this if need be &#8211; you can name-drop a famous scholar or two here &#8211; but whatever you do, don&#8217;t lead with it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Jesus<strong> is God<\/strong>&#8220;?<\/p>\n<p>Mmm&#8230; good and vague. Powerfully simple, pithy. <em>Close<\/em> &#8211; but too much like the first statement above.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You may <em>believe<\/em> all of the above &#8211; but you don&#8217;t want to <em>say<\/em> any of those claims, unless you have to. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s a better way:<\/strong> &#8220;I believe in the <strong>divinity of Christ<\/strong>.&#8221; Perfect. Like a <a title=\"Rorschach explained\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rorschach_test\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rorschach test<\/a>, people can read it <em>however they want<\/em>. You&#8217;ll get those heads a-noddin&#8217;.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-2081\" title=\"rorschach\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/rorschach.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"209\" height=\"231\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/rorschach.jpg 209w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/rorschach-90x99.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 209px) 100vw, 209px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Modalists? Check. Tritheists? No problemo. Social trinitarians? No doubt &#8211; they&#8217;re down with imprecision generally. &#8220;Latin&#8221; theories? Yep. Spirit christology? Subordinationism? Yes, and yes. Constitution trinitarianism? Sure. Even unitarians can dig this &#8211; Jesus is the Son of who, and sent by whom? God! So, he&#8217;s &#8220;divine&#8221;. This statement tickles nearly all Christian ears.<\/p>\n<p>It won&#8217;t go down so well with Jews, Muslims, theological liberals &#8211; but there&#8217;s no pleasing <em>everyone<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2080\" style=\"border: 11px solid white;\" title=\"ahmadinejad_at_his_best\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/ahmadinejad_at_his_best.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"266\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/ahmadinejad_at_his_best.jpg 220w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/ahmadinejad_at_his_best-90x109.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 220px) 100vw, 220px\" \/><strong>What does it mean?<\/strong> That it is false that Jesus is &#8220;just a man&#8221;. What does <em>that<\/em> mean? Why, that&#8217;s a denial of the divinity\/deity of Christ.<\/p>\n<p>Be sure to put things that way &#8211; &#8220;<strong>deniers<\/strong>&#8221; are inherently reactionary, negative, unattractive, quibbling, more subject to body odor, and more likely to lack opposable thumbs. Plus, there&#8217;s a mild whiff in the term of its most popular usage, &#8220;holocaust denier&#8221;. This can only help. Plus, to the biblically literate,&nbsp; it&#8217;ll <em>suggest<\/em> that your opponents are personally and publicly<a title=\"deny me before men\" href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Matthew+10%3A32-33&amp;version=KJV\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> betraying Jesus<\/a>. You get to make that accusation without making it &#8211; rhetorical <em>gold<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>To review: you <em>affirm<\/em> the divinity of Christ. Your opponents <em>deny<\/em> the divinity of Christ. That&#8217;s your line, and you&#8217;re stickin&#8217; to it.<\/p>\n<p>You can make it part of your case that &#8220;the divinity of Christ&#8221; has <strong>always been taught by all Christians everywhere<\/strong> (a little exaggeration never hurt anyone), and because your statement is so vague, it won&#8217;t be obviously false (even if it is false). Justin Martyr, Thomas Aquinas, Karl Barth, Billy Graham, Mother Theresa, 3\/4 of U2 circa 1982, Paul (of Tarsus, not Hewson)- all, you can urge, <em>clearly<\/em> agree with you. An ecumenical cloud of witnesses like this is hard to match.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, note this this is a <strong>tried and true <\/strong>method.The pros swear by it.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>You get credit for having a respectable, not-obviously-false and not-obviously-self-refuting theory, whether or not that&#8217;s so. (Don&#8217;t bother folks with <em>theory<\/em> &#8211; souls are at stake. Plus, God is bigger than our puny minds.)<\/li>\n<li>If your opponent demands to know what you mean by your claim, just repeat it, politician-style, in slightly different words (<em>full<\/em> divinity, <em>de<\/em>ity, <em>full<\/em> deity), and more slowly and loudly. A quick subject change may be called for here as well.<\/li>\n<li>Show mild disdain (don&#8217;t overdo it) for anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree that the Bible <em>obviously<\/em> teaches this formless blob of a claim.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Above all, remember this: what can&#8217;t be understood,<strong> can&#8217;t be refuted<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Happy persuading!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I believe in the divinity of Christ.&#8221; Perfect. 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