{"id":27117,"date":"2015-01-24T09:13:43","date_gmt":"2015-01-24T14:13:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=27117"},"modified":"2015-01-24T10:22:28","modified_gmt":"2015-01-24T15:22:28","slug":"incarnation-gods-logos-john-11-18","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/incarnation-gods-logos-john-11-18\/","title":{"rendered":"The Incarnation of God&#8217;s Logos (John 1:1-18)"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_27120\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27120\" style=\"width: 331px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/community.beliefnet.com\/miguel_de_servet\/go\/gallery\/item\/141300933\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-27120 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nativity-scene.jpg\" alt=\"Martin Schongauer\u201a The Nativity (ca. 1480)\" width=\"331\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nativity-scene.jpg 331w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nativity-scene-221x300.jpg 221w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nativity-scene-90x122.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 331px) 100vw, 331px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-27120\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Martin Schongauer\u201a The Nativity (ca. 1480)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>In this guest post, our friend Mario Stratta expounds the prologue of the gospel according to John. &#8211; Dale<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I believe that the Prologue to John\u2019s Gospel speaks about the Incarnation of God\u2019s Word (<em>Logos<\/em>) in\/as the \u201cman called Jesus\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/classic.net.bible.org\/verse.php?search=John%209:11&amp;book=john&amp;chapter=9&amp;verse=11\">John 9:11<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Where I disagree with the Trinitarians, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Subordinationism\">Subordinationists<\/a> and Arians, is that the Word had a <strong>personal<\/strong> subsistence (<em>hypostasis<\/em>), distinct from that of God, the Father Almighty, <strong>before<\/strong> the Incarnation. In fact, the interlude about John the Baptist at verses 6-8, has the literary function of preparing a \u201cchange of scene\u201d between the pre-incarnated <em>Logos<\/em>, eternal <strong>attribute<\/strong> of the Eternal God, and the incarnate <em>Logos<\/em>, viz. Jesus Christ. Similarly, verse 15 has the literary function of preparing the ground, once again, for the Baptist\u2019s testimony, after the Incarnation has taken place, with Jesus\u2019 conception and birth.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s look at the complete Prologue of John\u2019s Gospel (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.esvbible.org\/search\/John+1%3A1-18\/\">John 1:1-18<\/a>). I have adopted the ESV translation, but other translations, like the NET, are equally good. Except that they ALL, by referring to the Word as \u201che\u201d (or even \u201cHe\u201d), misleadingly and surreptitiously suggest that the Word is a personal entity.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>1.<\/strong> In the beginning was the Word, <\/em>[Grk. <em>ho logos<\/em>]<em> and the Word was with <\/em>[The]<em> God <\/em>[Grk. <em>ho theos<\/em>],<em> and the Word was God <\/em>[Grk. <em>theos<\/em>]<em>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The distinction between the first instance of \u201cGod\u201d, with the article [<em>ho theos<\/em>], and the second, without the article [<em>theos<\/em>] is not accidental: in the first case the Evangelist is speaking of The God, in the second case, God is a \u201csubstantive-adjective\u201d, it indicates that the Word is (essentially) God. Nowhere does it say (or imply) here that we are talking of a different \u201cperson\u201d. We can paraphrase John 1:1, in a language much more accessible to our understanding, as:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;In the beginning, <\/em>[<em>even before creation<\/em>]<em>, the Word was <\/em>[<em>already in existence<\/em>]<em>. The Word was <\/em>[<em>intimately associated<\/em>]<em> with God. And <\/em>[<em>in fact<\/em>]<em> the Word was <\/em>[<em>as to its essence, fully<\/em>]<em> God.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>2.<\/strong> He<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> [Grk. <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">h<\/em><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">outos<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">, lit. &#8220;this&#8221;]<\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> was in the beginning with God.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">In English translations, the masculine pronoun &#8220;he&#8221; is used, to refer to the Word, by analogy with the Greek, in which the word <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">Logos<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> is of masculine (grammatical) gender. This is pure coincidence, as can be easily seen form the fact that, for instance, in Greek, the word <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">Pneuma<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> (\u201cSpirit\u201d) is of neuter gender, or that <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">Sophia<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> (\u201cWisdom\u201d) is of feminine gender. So, again, the result is to instill in the reader the false impression that the pre-incarnated Word is a personal entity.In the following verses, till verse no.10, even if the word <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">Logos<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> is not used any more until verse no.14, the reference is to the <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">Logos<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> of God, which is an essential <\/span><strong style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">attribute<\/strong><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> of God. Only at verse no.11, John\u2019s Prologue starts speaking clearly of Jesus of Nazareth in\/as whom the Logos of God became incarnated by means of the Holy Spirit of God and born of the Virgin Mary, as a <\/span><strong style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">person<\/strong><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">, the <\/span><strong style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">one person<\/strong><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> of Jesus Christ, true God and true man, one-begotten of the One God and Father, YHWH.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>3. <\/strong>All things came to be through him<\/em> [Grk. <em>di&#8217;autou<\/em>]<em>, and without him <\/em>[Grk. <em>ch\u00f4ris autou<\/em>]<em> was not any thing made that was made.\u00a0<\/em><em><strong>4. <\/strong>In him<\/em> [Grk. <em>en aut\u00f4<\/em>]<em> was life, and the life was the light of men.\u00a0<\/em><em><strong>5. <\/strong>The light <\/em>[Grk. <em>ph\u00f4s<\/em> &#8211; neuter] <em>shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.<\/em> [Grk. <em>aut\u00f4<\/em> &#8211; neuter]<\/p>\n<p>The Greek verbal form for \u201covercome\u201d (<em>katelaben<\/em>) is variously translated: \u201ccomprehend\u201d, \u201cadmit\u201d, \u201creceive&#8221;, \u201cmaster\u201d, even \u201cput out\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>6. <\/strong>There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. <\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>7.<\/strong> He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. <\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>8.<\/strong> He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This is an \u201cinterlude\u201d on John the Baptist, an anticipation of the Baptist\u2019s role as witness to Jesus.<\/p>\n<p><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>9.<\/strong> The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">The Prologue goes back to God\u2019s Logos, which has already been referred also as \u201clife\u201d and \u201clight\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>10.<\/strong> He<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> [the pronoun is NOT in the Greek text, but the verse still refers back to God&#8217;s <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">Logos<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">]<\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> was in the world, and the world was made through him <\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">[Grk. <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">di&#8217;autou<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">]<\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">, yet the world did not know him <\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">[Grk. <\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">auton<\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">]<\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>He<\/em> [the pronoun is NOT in the Greek text, but, from now on, the text starts referring to Jesus, in\/as whom the <em>Logos<\/em> of God became incarnated]<em> came to his own <\/em><em>[viz. things &#8211; ta idia<\/em><em>, neuter plural], and his own <\/em><em>[viz. people \u2013 hoi idioi<\/em><em>, masculine plural] did not receive him.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>11.<\/em><\/strong> He came to his own, andhis own people did not receive him.\u00a0<em><strong>12. <\/strong>But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,\u00a0<\/em><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>13.<\/strong> who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.\u00a0<\/em><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>14. <\/strong>And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son <\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">[or: the one-begotten Son \u2013 see note below<\/span><strong style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> #<\/strong><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">]<\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> from the Father, full of grace and truth.\u00a0<\/em><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>15.<\/strong> John bore witness about him, and cried out, \u201cThis was he of whom I said, \u2018He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.\u2019\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This is another anticipation of the Baptist\u2019s role as witness to Jesus. That \u201c<em>before me<\/em>\u201d [Grk. <em>pr\u00f4tos mou<\/em>] does NOT refer to any pre-existence of Jesus, BUT to Jesus\u2019 primacy.<\/p>\n<p><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>16.<\/strong>\u00a0For\u00a0from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. <\/em><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>17.<\/strong> For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.\u00a0<\/em><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><strong>18.<\/strong> No one has ever seen God; the only [one, who is] God <\/em><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">[or: the one-begotten Son \u2013 see note below<\/span><strong style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"> #<\/strong><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">]<\/span><em style=\"line-height: 1.5;\">, who is at the Father&#8217;s side, he has made him known.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>#The Greek word, in both verses, is <em>monogen\u00eas<\/em>. See the ample discussion at <a title=\"NET Bible John 1:18\" href=\"http:\/\/classic.net.bible.org\/verse.php?search=John%201:18&amp;book=john&amp;chapter=1&amp;verse=18\" target=\"_blank\">NET Note <sup>1<\/sup> <strong>tc<\/strong><\/a> appended to <a href=\"http:\/\/classic.net.bible.org\/verse.php?search=John%201:18&amp;book=john&amp;chapter=1&amp;verse=18\">John 1:18<\/a>. In the Greek MSS there are two main variants of what appears here as \u201cthe only God\u201d, based on whether the text has <em>theos<\/em> or <em>yios<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Adapted from the Journal post <em><a href=\"http:\/\/community.beliefnet.com\/miguel_de_servet\/blog\/2012\/11\/19\/the_incarnation_of_gods_logos_%28the_prologue_of_john%E2%80%99s_gospel%29\">The Incarnation of God&#8217;s Logos (The Prologue of John\u2019s Gospel)<\/a><\/em>, November 19, 2012 on January 16, 2015<\/p>\n<p>\u00a9 Mario Stratta (aka Miguel de Servet and MdS)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this guest post, our friend Mario Stratta expounds the prologue of the gospel according to John. &#8211; Dale I believe that the Prologue to John\u2019s Gospel speaks about the Incarnation of God\u2019s Word (Logos) in\/as the \u201cman called Jesus\u201d (John 9:11). Where I disagree with the Trinitarians, Subordinationists and Arians, is that the Word&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/incarnation-gods-logos-john-11-18\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">The Incarnation of God&#8217;s Logos (John 1:1-18)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":27120,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27117","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-theories"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27117","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27117"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27117\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34641,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27117\/revisions\/34641"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/27120"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27117"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27117"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27117"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}