{"id":3029,"date":"2011-07-31T02:22:00","date_gmt":"2011-07-31T06:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=3029"},"modified":"2015-03-06T23:02:24","modified_gmt":"2015-03-07T04:02:24","slug":"god-the-baby-rama-ram-avatar-of-vishnu-reloaded","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/god-the-baby-rama-ram-avatar-of-vishnu-reloaded\/","title":{"rendered":"God the baby \u2013 Rama \/ Ram, avatar of Vishnu &#8211; Reloaded"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3031 alignleft\" style=\"border: 11px solid white;\" title=\"the Hindu god Vishnu\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/vishnu_12-226x300.jpg\" alt=\"Vishnu\" width=\"226\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/vishnu_12-226x300.jpg 226w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/vishnu_12-420x557.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/vishnu_12-460x610.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/vishnu_12-90x119.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/vishnu_12.jpg 662w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 226px) 100vw, 226px\" \/><strong>Could a god have been a baby? <\/strong>It depends on what it takes to be a real god&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Hindus who believe in <a title=\"&quot;avatar&quot; @ wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Avatar\" target=\"_blank\">avatars<\/a>, and catholic Christians say: <strong>yes<\/strong>, this is possible, for it has been actual.<\/p>\n<p>In Hinduism, this is particularly emphasized in <a title=\"Vaishnavism\" href=\"http:\/\/www.religionfacts.com\/hinduism\/sects\/vaishnavism.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Vaishnavite<\/a> traditions, in Christianity, <a title=\"Catholic pop theology book\" href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicbook.com\/AgredaCD\/MyCatholicFaith\/mcfc028.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Roman Catholicism<\/a>. They of course differ about which god this was.<\/p>\n<p>For other Christians, the answer is\u00a0<strong><a title=\"Jesus Christ: Incarnated or Created?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.biblicalunitarian.com\/modules.php?name=News&amp;file=article&amp;sid=213\" target=\"_blank\">no<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>In a <a title=\"god the baby\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/god-the-baby-rama-avatar-of-vishnu\/\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a>, I commented that there is something pleasing about the idea that a mighty god stooped to become a small, weak baby.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This time<\/strong>: story of Vishnu incarnate has been <a title=\"Ramayan 2008 TV series\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ramayan_(2008_TV_series)\" target=\"_blank\">updated<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>My edit, with comments below:<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"425\" height=\"349\" classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/j3U59pgIZlQ?version=3&amp;hl=en_US\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed width=\"425\" height=\"349\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/j3U59pgIZlQ?version=3&amp;hl=en_US\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>(On the <a title=\"youtube page\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=j3U59pgIZlQ&amp;feature=related\" target=\"_blank\">youtube page<\/a>, the times below are clickable &#8211; click &#8220;Show more&#8221; there.)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>0:01 To everything, there is a season&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>0:31 This looks like a job for&#8230; <strong>Vishnu<\/strong>!<\/li>\n<li>0:42 King Dashrath was almost killed in battle. Now, he&#8217;s concerned that his line should continue. He and his three queens consult with his the royal guru.<\/li>\n<li>1:18 It&#8217;s nothing a little Vedic ceremony won&#8217;t fix.<\/li>\n<li>1:47 But not just anyone can perform that rite&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>2:33 A theophany of Vishnu as an electric ball of light.<\/li>\n<li>4:41 Rite time, rite place.<\/li>\n<li>5:00 That was quick! Better stock up on diapers.<\/li>\n<li>5:52 Shiva, Brahma, and misc. divinities, gurus etc. acknowledge that <strong>something important<\/strong> is about to go down.<\/li>\n<li>6:41 An out-of-body experience. <strong>Meet your future baby<\/strong>, Queen Kaushalya (Lord Vishnu). He reminds me of a young <a title=\"Paul Stanley\" href=\"http:\/\/www.paulstanley.com\/index.php?module=photos&amp;gallery_id=2\" target=\"_blank\">Paul Stanley<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>7:52 She gets her wish: a son like Vishnu. But only Vishnu himself is qualified.<\/li>\n<li>8:39 &#8220;<a title=\"OM\" href=\"http:\/\/hinduism.about.com\/od\/omaum\/a\/meaningofom.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Om<\/a>&#8221; a holy syllable, expressing God&#8217;s essence &#8211; &#8220;namo&#8221; hail &#8211; &#8220;Narayana&#8221; an old divine title, applied to Vishnu.<\/li>\n<li>8:45 Heavenly and earthly beings celebrate the birth of <strong>Ram<\/strong> (Rama) and his brothers. Ram = Vishnu.<\/li>\n<li>10:40 The wrath of God.<\/li>\n<li>11:00 A <strong>paradoxical<\/strong> musical number. God gets a bath, is dressed by Mommy, takes a nap, gets fed, and so on.<\/li>\n<li>12:16 God is very cute.<\/li>\n<li>13:03 God toddles.<\/li>\n<li>14:16<strong> Moms <em>love<\/em> that<\/strong>, even the mother of God.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Could a god have been a baby? It depends on what it takes to be a real god&#8230; Hindus who believe in avatars, and catholic Christians say: yes, this is possible, for it has been actual. In Hinduism, this is particularly emphasized in Vaishnavite traditions, in Christianity, Roman Catholicism. They of course differ about which&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/god-the-baby-rama-ram-avatar-of-vishnu-reloaded\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">God the baby \u2013 Rama \/ Ram, avatar of Vishnu &#8211; Reloaded<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3031,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[15,45,33,8,20,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3029","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-christology","category-hinduism","category-incarnation","category-linkage","category-mystery","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3029","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3029"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3029\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":35053,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3029\/revisions\/35053"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3031"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3029"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3029"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3029"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}