{"id":336,"date":"2008-06-10T12:24:00","date_gmt":"2008-06-10T12:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=336"},"modified":"2017-06-12T16:57:56","modified_gmt":"2017-06-12T20:57:56","slug":"goofus-and-gallant-grok-and-sophie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/goofus-and-gallant-grok-and-sophie\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Allah God? Goofus and Gallant, Grok and Sophie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-347 size-full\" title=\"\\\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kodos.jpg\" alt=\"Saith Grok: &quot;Love thy neighbor, and buyest thou all thine goods at WalMart.&quot;\" width=\"305\" height=\"374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kodos.jpg 305w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kodos-244x300.jpg 244w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kodos-90x110.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 305px) 100vw, 305px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><em>Is Allah God? <strong>Are Christians and Muslims talking about (numerically) the same God? <\/strong>We&#8217;ve previously linked and joined in with discussions <a title=\"Jeremy Pierce on Allah and the Christian God\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/allah-god\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">with Jeremy Pierce <\/a>and <a title=\"Corcoran on the God of Muslims and the God of Christians\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/archives\/335\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">with Kevin Corcoran<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>To further the discussion, I present <strong>a tale to explain why it may matter less than you think <\/strong>whether or not the words&#8221;God&#8221; (used by Christians) and &#8220;Allah&#8221; (used by Muslims) refer to the same being.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A kind and generous woman named <strong>Sophie <\/strong>decides to sponsor two children through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldvision.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">World Vision<\/a>. She offers to give to children from &#8220;wherever the need is greatest&#8221;, and weeks later, a letter reveals that she is the new sponsor of two brothers from some third-world country she&#8217;s never heard of. Their names are <strong>Goofus and Gallant<\/strong>, and they are identical twins.<\/p>\n<p>Each month, Sophie sends off a generous check, along with a note. She&#8217;s not sure about the boys&#8217; religious affiliation, so she sticks with good general advice, which she hopes will apply no matter what. &#8220;Treat others as you want them to treat you.&#8221; &#8220;Forgive others, just as you are forgiven.&#8221; &#8220;Love and serve the Creator.&#8221; &#8220;Love one another.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She also sends kind little notes every so often. &#8220;I love you.&#8221; &#8220;You&#8217;re growing to be so big!&#8221; &#8220;Hope to meet you some day.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sophie doesn&#8217;t know this, but <strong>Goofus and Gallant are rather confused about their benefactor.<\/strong> They (correctly) believe that their benefactor is a rich, English-speaking being who lives far away, but some silly playground talk, the occasional television show, and some translation problems leads them to believe the following things about their benefactor &#8211; about the source of their support and the occasional notes and letters:<\/p>\n<p>1. He is <strong>a space alien with green tentacles<\/strong>, who must wear a bulbous glass helmet when visiting the earth.<br \/>\n2. Once, probably, he killed a kitten. Or something like that.<br \/>\n3. He and his planet mates once invaded the Earth, but were repelled by a bartender <a href=\"http:\/\/deadon.wordpress.com\/2007\/05\/03\/the-most-cromulent-simpsons-episodes-of-all-time-14\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wielding a board with a nail in it<\/a>.<br \/>\n4. He&#8217;s a shape-shifter. In addition to his usual form, he could appear, say, as a middle-aged caucasian American woman.<\/p>\n<p>Goofus and Gallant often discuss their benefactor, whom they refer to (no one knows why) as <strong>&#8220;Grok&#8221;<\/strong>. They have\u00a0very different attitudes about Grok. <strong>Gallant loves Grok and is grateful to him.<\/strong> He hopes that some day he can somehow return Grok&#8217;s love, and eagerly desires to meet him. Every week he writes Grok a letter, telling Grok about his day, and writing out his hopes, dreams, and fears. He has a large stash of these, saved for a hoped-for future delivery to Grok.<br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nGoofus hates Grok.<\/strong> His dark imagination conjures up some evil motives which he attributes to Grok (something about WalMart, global hegemony, and soylent green), and each of &#8220;Grok&#8217;s&#8221; (in fact, Sophie&#8217;s) letters to Goofus are greeted with (1) spit, (2) toilet paper usage, and (3) burning (of course, always in that order). Goofus ignores the copious benefits flowing from &#8220;Grok&#8221;, ignores or maliciously reinterprets the monthly notes, and in fact hates Grok so much that he will try to kill anyone who so much as says a good word about Grok.<\/p>\n<p>Ten years pass this way, and Goofus and Gallant are now graduating from high school. <strong>Sophie decides that she&#8217;ll surprise &#8220;her boys&#8221; by attending their graduation.<\/strong> She buys a ticket to their country, and boards the plane with presents, a loving heart, and ten year&#8217;s worth of longing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When she arrives, will she care whether or not &#8220;Grok&#8221; (spoken by Goofus and Gallant) refers to her? No.<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>If &#8220;Grok&#8221; fails to refer to her, she&#8217;ll accept Gallant&#8217;s letters <em>as if<\/em> they were written to her. This country is <em>very <\/em>backwards, so she doesn&#8217;t blame Gallant for his mistaken beliefs about the imaginary &#8220;Grok&#8221;. She&#8217;ll treat Gallant as if he&#8217;d loved her, and not the imaginary &#8220;Grok&#8221;.<\/li>\n<li>If the word &#8220;Grok&#8221; <em>has <\/em>all along referred to her, she&#8217;ll accept Gallant just the same.<\/li>\n<li>Either way, she&#8217;ll find Goofus unacceptable. Has he hated merely an imaginary character? If so, still, he&#8217;s made himself the sort of person who would hate Sophie if informed that she were in fact his World Vision sponsor. Or was Gallant&#8217;s hate in fact directed at Sophie all along? (i.e. when Goofus thought and spoke about &#8220;Grok&#8221;, he thereby referred to Sophie) She will not force her love on him, and so will pass him by.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Sophie has generously dished out benefits for ten years; she&#8217;s fishing for someone who will return her love. Because she&#8217;s looking for the right sort of person, it is inconsequential to her whether or not someone has actually successfully referred to her, or recognized her as the source of blessings.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is Allah God? Are Christians and Muslims talking about (numerically) the same God? We&#8217;ve previously linked and joined in with discussions with Jeremy Pierce and with Kevin Corcoran. To further the discussion, I present a tale to explain why it may matter less than you think whether or not the words&#8221;God&#8221; (used by Christians) and&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/goofus-and-gallant-grok-and-sophie\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Is Allah God? 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