{"id":34767,"date":"2015-02-16T12:54:33","date_gmt":"2015-02-16T17:54:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=34767"},"modified":"2016-03-22T20:57:27","modified_gmt":"2016-03-23T00:57:27","slug":"podcast-75-justin-martyrs-dialogue-with-trypho-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-75-justin-martyrs-dialogue-with-trypho-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 75 &#8211; Justin Martyr&#8217;s Dialogue with Trypho &#8211; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9494\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-34767-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities075.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities075.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities075.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities075.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=34767-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities075.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities075.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:ChristPeterPaul_detail.jpg#mediaviewer\/File:ChristPeterPaul.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-34769\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-between-Peter-and-Paul.jpg\" alt=\"Jesus between Peter and Paul, 4th c.\" width=\"372\" height=\"197\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-between-Peter-and-Paul.jpg 372w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-between-Peter-and-Paul-300x159.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-between-Peter-and-Paul-90x48.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 372px) 100vw, 372px\" \/><\/a>When it came to <strong>christology, what did Justin Martyr consider essential<\/strong>, as in, you&#8217;re not a Christian unless you believe it? The answers may surprise you. (<a title=\"podcasts on John Locke's The Reasonableness of Christianity\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=Locke%27s+Reasonableness\" target=\"_blank\">Hint<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>In this episode we explore the christology of Justin&#8217;s <em>Dialogue with Trypho<\/em>. Is Jesus, for Justin, <strong>God himself?<\/strong> One third of a triune God? &#8220;Fully divine?&#8221; Eternal?<\/p>\n<p>I also critically interact with some comments on Justin by <strong>Dr. Paula Fredriksen<\/strong>, who says that for Justin, as for Marcion and Valentinus, &#8220;the god of the Bible, the god of the Jews, was not the High God.&#8221; I argue against this that for Justin, the pre-human Jesus<em> isn&#8217;t<\/em> the god of the Jews, though he is the &#8220;god&#8221; seen and heard by ancient Jews.<\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or <strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">itunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both). \u00a0It is also available on <a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">youtube <\/a>(scroll down \u2013 you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>). If you would like to\u00a0<strong>upload audio feedback<\/strong> for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">put the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Links for this episode:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Alvan Lamson&#8217;s <a title=\"Alvan Lamson's The Church of the First Three Centuries\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B007FHHIPQ\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Church of the First Three Centuries<\/em><\/a> (<a title=\"Alvan Lamson's The Church of the First Three Centuries\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/churchfirstthre01lamsgoog\" target=\"_blank\">pdf<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>John Biddle&#8217;s <em>Testimonies<\/em> is reprinted in <a title=\"Thomas Firmin, Stephen Nye, The Faith of the One God\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/stephen-nye\/the-faith-of-one-god\/paperback\/product-4074169.html\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Faith of the One God<\/em> (1691)<\/a><\/li>\n<li>William Christie,<a title=\"William Christie, Dissertations on the Unity of God\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/william-christie\/dissertations-on-the-unity-of-god\/paperback\/product-3967123.html\" target=\"_blank\"> <em>Dissertations on the Unity of God <\/em><\/a>(<a title=\"William Christie, Dissertations on the Unity of God\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/william-christie\/dissertations-on-the-unity-of-god\/ebook\/product-17446825.html\" target=\"_blank\">pdf<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Dr. Paula Fredriksen home page\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/religion\/people\/faculty\/bios\/fredriksen\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Paula Fredriksen<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a title=\"Dr. Paula Fredriksen, &quot;Gods and the One God&quot;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/religion\/files\/pdf\/Gods-and-the-One-God.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Gods and the One God<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a title=\"Dr. Paula Fredriksen, &quot;Mandatory Retirement&quot;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/religion\/files\/pdf\/Mandatory-Retirement-Ideas-in-the-Study-of-Christian-Origins-whose-Time-Has-Come-to-Go.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Mandatory Retirement: Ideas in the study of Christians origins whose time has come to go<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>This episode&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a title=\"Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod\" href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Kevin_MacLeod\/Blues_Sampler\/Slow_Burn\" target=\"_blank\">Slow Burn<\/a>&#8221; by <a title=\"Kevin MacLeod at the Free Music Archive\" href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Kevin_MacLeod\/\" target=\"_blank\">Kevin MacLeod<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When it came to christology, what did Justin Martyr consider essential, as in, you&#8217;re not a Christian unless you believe it? 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