{"id":35165,"date":"2015-04-06T03:07:37","date_gmt":"2015-04-06T07:07:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=35165"},"modified":"2016-03-22T20:43:25","modified_gmt":"2016-03-23T00:43:25","slug":"podcast-82-dr-oliver-crisp-on-libertarian-calvinism-and-universalism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-82-dr-oliver-crisp-on-libertarian-calvinism-and-universalism\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 82 &#8211; Dr. Oliver Crisp on libertarian Calvinism and universalism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9682\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-35165-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities082.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities082.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities082.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities082.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=35165-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities082.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities082.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-35193\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Oliver-Crisp-theologian-at-Fuller-Seminary-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Oliver Crisp, theologian at Fuller Seminary\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Oliver-Crisp-theologian-at-Fuller-Seminary-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Oliver-Crisp-theologian-at-Fuller-Seminary-420x280.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Oliver-Crisp-theologian-at-Fuller-Seminary-460x307.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Oliver-Crisp-theologian-at-Fuller-Seminary-90x60.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Oliver-Crisp-theologian-at-Fuller-Seminary.jpg 825w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/>In this interview, Dr. Oliver Crisp and I continue to discuss his explorations of the <strong>boundaries of Reformed tradition<\/strong>. His comments are, as usual, candid, creative, and insightful.<\/p>\n<p>Can a Calvinist consistently believe that humans have what philosophers call &#8220;<strong>libertarian&#8221; freedom<\/strong>? In his <em>Deviant Calvinism <\/em>(kindle), Dr. Crisp suggests that a Calvinist can, although he doesn&#8217;t himself believe in libertarian freedom.<\/p>\n<p>And what about <strong>universalism<\/strong>, the doctrine that eventually, all saved? If as Augustinians and Calvinists think, salvation is 100% God&#8217;s doing, and God is wholly good, mustn&#8217;t he then save all? Some have argued from universalism based on a few passages in the New Testament and\/or by making\u00a0philosophical arguments. As a Calvinist, Dr. Crisp feels the pull of universalism, but resists it for biblical reasons.<\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or <strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both \u2013 <strong><a title=\"how to rate us at iTunes and Stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/review\/\" target=\"_blank\">directions here<\/a><\/strong>). It is also available on <a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">Youtube <\/a>(scroll down \u2013 you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>). If you would like to\u00a0<strong>upload audio feedback<\/strong> for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">put the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Dr. Oliver Crisp home page\" href=\"http:\/\/fuller.edu\/academics\/school-of-theology\/cats\/crisp,-oliver\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Crisp\u2019s professional home page<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Some of his books:\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"Crisp, Deviant Calvinism\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B00SCUZUAA\" target=\"_blank\"><em><strong>Deviant Calvinism<\/strong>: Broadening Reformed Theology<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Crisp, Divinity and Humanity\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/052169535X\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Divinity and Humanity: The Incarnation Reconsidered<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Oliver Crisp, Revisioning Christology\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B00D3JBLJ4\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Revisioning Christology: Theology in the Reformed Tradition<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Crisp on Edwards\" href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0199755299\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Jonathan Edwards on God and Creation<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Paul Helm's blog, Helm's Deep\" href=\"http:\/\/paulhelmsdeep.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Paul Helm&#8217;s blog Helm&#8217;s Deep<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Dr. William Hasker\" href=\"https:\/\/www.huntington.edu\/Bible\/Faculty\/William-Hasker\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. William Hasker<\/a> (<a title=\"William Hasker on the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=hasker\" target=\"_blank\">previous episodes and posts<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"Thomas Talbott at God's Love Wins\" href=\"http:\/\/godslovewins.com\/blog\/thomas-talbott\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Thomas Talbott @ God&#8217;s Love Wins<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a title=\"the song Night Owl\" href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Broke_For_Free\/Directionless_EP\/Broke_For_Free_-_Directionless_EP_-_01_Night_Owl\" target=\"_blank\">Night Owl<\/a>&#8221; by <a title=\"Broke for Free at the Free Music Archive\" href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Broke_For_Free\/\" target=\"_blank\">Broke for Free<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can a Calvinist consistently believe that humans have what philosophers call &#8220;libertarian&#8221; freedom? In his Deviant Calvinism, Dr. Crisp suggests that a Calvinist can, although he doesn&#8217;t himself believe in libertarian freedom. And what about universalism?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":35193,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[62,4,56,57,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-35165","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-calvinism","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-interview","category-podcast","category-theologians"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35165","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35165"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35165\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37372,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35165\/revisions\/37372"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/35193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35165"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35165"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35165"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}