{"id":36323,"date":"2015-10-05T18:52:11","date_gmt":"2015-10-05T22:52:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=36323"},"modified":"2016-03-22T19:56:49","modified_gmt":"2016-03-22T23:56:49","slug":"podcast-107-dr-robert-m-bowman-jr-on-triadic-new-testament-passages-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-107-dr-robert-m-bowman-jr-on-triadic-new-testament-passages-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 107 &#8211; Dr. Robert M. Bowman Jr. on triadic New Testament passages &#8211; part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8937\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-36323-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities107.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities107.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities107.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities107.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=36323-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities107.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities107.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-36324\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-journal-for-trinitarian-studies-and-apologetics.jpg\" alt=\"the journal for trinitarian studies and apologetics\" width=\"500\" height=\"536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-journal-for-trinitarian-studies-and-apologetics.jpg 500w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-journal-for-trinitarian-studies-and-apologetics-280x300.jpg 280w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-journal-for-trinitarian-studies-and-apologetics-420x450.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-journal-for-trinitarian-studies-and-apologetics-460x493.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-journal-for-trinitarian-studies-and-apologetics-90x96.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/>At the end of the gospel according to Matthew, Jesus is portrayed as saying,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them<strong> in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit<\/strong>, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Matthew+28&amp;version=NRSV\" target=\"_blank\">Matthew 28:18b-20, NRSV<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Does the author here <strong>imply, presuppose, or hint that the one God is tripersonal<\/strong>? Or are some but not all elements of creedal trinitarian claims to be found here? Or is there no support here for the claim that there is one God &#8220;in three Persons&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>In this episode I discuss this and two other triadic New Testament passages with evangelical apologist <strong>Dr. Robert M. Bowman Jr.<\/strong>, the author of &#8220;Triadic New Testament Passages and the Doctrine of the Trinity&#8221; in <a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1479178276\" target=\"_blank\">the journal<\/a> pictured here. Next week, he and I discuss a number of other such triadic passages &#8211; though far short of the more than eighty which he lists in his article.<\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both \u2013 <strong><a title=\"how to rate us at iTunes and Stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/review\/\" target=\"_blank\">directions here<\/a><\/strong>). It is also available on\u00a0<a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a> (scroll down \u2013 you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>). If you would like to\u00a0<strong>upload audio feedback<\/strong> for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">put the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can <strong>support the trinities podcast by ordering anything through Amazon.com<\/strong> after clicking through one of our links. We get a small % of your purchase, even though your price is not increased. (If you see \u201ctrinities\u201d in you\u00a0url while at Amazon, then we\u2019ll get it.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Dr. Bowman&#8217;s<strong> blog <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religiousresearcher.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Religious Researcher<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/irr.org\/who-we-are\" target=\"_blank\">Institute for Religious Research<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/results?search_query=robert+m.+bowman+jr+\" target=\"_blank\">some debates and interviews<\/a> by Dr. Bowman<\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1479178276\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Journal for Trinitarian Studies and Apologetics<\/em>, January 2013 issue<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Bowman and Komoszewski, <a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0825429838\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Putting Jesus in his Place: The Case for the Deity of Christ<\/em> <\/a>(<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B001QOGJVI\" target=\"_blank\">kindle<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Bowman, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B008J4CHY6\" target=\"_blank\">What Mormons Believe<\/a><\/em> (<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B008J4CHY6\" target=\"_blank\">kindle<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Clarke,<em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/samuel-clarke\/the-scripture-doctrine-of-the-trinity-and-related-writings\/paperback\/product-3787826.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Scripture-Doctrine of the Trinity<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/quicksearch\/?qs_version=NIV&amp;quicksearch=holy+spirit&amp;begin=47&amp;end=47\" target=\"_blank\">all the mentions of &#8220;the Holy Spirit&#8221; or &#8220;the holy spirit&#8221; in Matthew<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>some relevant other trinities episodes<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li>p<a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-25-pastor-sean-finnegan-about-the-holy-spirit-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">odcast 25 \u2013 Pastor Sean Finnegan on \u201cthe Holy Spirit\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-26-pastor-sean-finnegan-on-the-holy-spirit-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 26 \u2013 Pastor Sean Finnegan on \u201cthe Holy Spirit\u201d \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-48-2-interpretations-of-philippians-2-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 48 &#8211; 2 interpretations of Philippians 2 &#8211; part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-49-2-interpretations-of-philippians-2-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 49 \u2013 2 interpretations of Philippians 2 \u2013 part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>some relevant trinities posts<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-about-the-trinity-6-get-a-date-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity \u2013 #6 get a date \u2013 part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-about-the-trinity-6-get-a-date-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity \u2013 #6 get a date \u2013 part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/the-lost-early-history-of-unitarian-christian-theology\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Josh_Woodward\/Breadcrumbs\/JoshWoodward-Breadcrumbs-NoVox-06-StarsCollide\" target=\"_blank\">Stars Collide (Instrumental Version)<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joshwoodward.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Josh Woodward<\/a>. <object width=\"300\" height=\"50\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"track=http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/92735.xml\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"sameDomain\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" width=\"300\" height=\"50\" flashvars=\"track=http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/92735.xml\" allowscriptaccess=\"sameDomain\" \/><\/object><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the end of the gospel according to Matthew, Jesus is portrayed as saying, &#8220;All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 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