{"id":36365,"date":"2015-10-12T16:36:32","date_gmt":"2015-10-12T20:36:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=36365"},"modified":"2016-03-22T19:55:03","modified_gmt":"2016-03-22T23:55:03","slug":"podcast-108-dr-robert-m-bowman-jr-on-triadic-new-testament-passages-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-108-dr-robert-m-bowman-jr-on-triadic-new-testament-passages-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 108 \u2013 Dr. Robert M. Bowman Jr. on triadic New Testament passages \u2013 part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5792\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-36365-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities108.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities108.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities108.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities108.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=36365-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities108.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities108.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-36366\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Robert-M-Bowman-Jr-evangelical-apologist.jpg\" alt=\"Dr Robert M Bowman Jr - evangelical apologist\" width=\"200\" height=\"279\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Robert-M-Bowman-Jr-evangelical-apologist.jpg 200w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Robert-M-Bowman-Jr-evangelical-apologist-90x126.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/>In this episode Dr. Bowman and I continue <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-107-dr-robert-m-bowman-jr-on-triadic-new-testament-passages-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">our discussion from last week<\/a>, about some of the New Testament passages he discusses in his &#8220;<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1479178276\" target=\"_blank\">Triadic New Testament Passages and the Doctrine of the Trinity<\/a><\/strong>.\u201d Some of the questions we discuss are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Do some of these passages show, as Dr. Bowman says, that the various authors are &#8220;<strong>thinking about the divine&#8221; in a &#8220;threefold way<\/strong>&#8220;?<\/li>\n<li>Or are they largely what I describe here as &#8220;<strong>unity slogans<\/strong>&#8221; mentioning God, his Son, and his spirit\/Spirit (and sometimes other things) as what all Christians have in common?<\/li>\n<li>And what about the <strong>God-Jesus-angels passages<\/strong>? What is going on there?<\/li>\n<li>How does this all relate to making theological sense of the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-about-the-trinity-8-trinity-vs-trinity\/\" target=\"_blank\">Trinity (or trinity)<\/a><\/strong> in the New Testament?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>As we recorded this a week later than the previous episode, I accidentally covered some passages <em>again<\/em> here, forgetting that I&#8217;d already brought them up last week. I&#8217;ve left this part in, as I think what was said complements what was said last time. Thanks for Dr. Bowman for being a good sport and addressing them twice!<\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both \u2013 <strong><a title=\"how to rate us at iTunes and Stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/review\/\" target=\"_blank\">directions here<\/a><\/strong>). It is also available on\u00a0<a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a> (scroll down \u2013 you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>). If you would like to\u00a0<strong>upload audio feedback<\/strong> for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">put the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can <strong>support the trinities podcast by ordering anything through Amazon.com<\/strong> after clicking through one of our links. We get a small % of your purchase, even though your price is not increased. (If you see \u201ctrinities\u201d in you\u00a0url while at Amazon, then we\u2019ll get it.)<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-36367\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-and-his-angels.jpg\" alt=\"Jesus and his angels\" width=\"510\" height=\"276\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-and-his-angels.jpg 610w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-and-his-angels-300x162.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-and-his-angels-420x227.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-and-his-angels-460x249.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jesus-and-his-angels-90x49.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px\" \/>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Dr. Bowman\u2019s<strong> blog <a href=\"http:\/\/www.religiousresearcher.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Religious Researcher<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/irr.org\/who-we-are\" target=\"_blank\">Institute for Religious Research<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/results?search_query=robert+m.+bowman+jr+\" target=\"_blank\">some debates and interviews<\/a> by Dr. Bowman<\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1479178276\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Journal for Trinitarian Studies and Apologetics<\/em>, January 2013 issue<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.etsjets.org\/files\/JETS-PDFs\/51\/51-4\/JETS%2051-4%20733-752%20Bowman.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Jesus Christ, God Manifest: Titus 2:13 Revisited<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Revolution_Void\/The_Politics_of_Desire\/revolution_void_-_10_-_scattered_knowledge\" target=\"_blank\">Scattered Knowledge<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Revolution_Void\/\" target=\"_blank\">Revolution Void<\/a>. <object width=\"300\" height=\"50\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"track=https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/39588.xml\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"sameDomain\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" width=\"300\" height=\"50\" flashvars=\"track=https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/39588.xml\" allowscriptaccess=\"sameDomain\" \/><\/object><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this episode Dr. Bowman and I continue our discussion from last week, about some of the New Testament passages he discusses in his \u201cTriadic New Testament Passages and the Doctrine of the Trinity.\u201d <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":36366,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,55,56,57,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-36365","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-holy-spirit","category-interview","category-podcast","category-theories"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36365","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=36365"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36365\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37340,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36365\/revisions\/37340"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/36366"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36365"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=36365"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=36365"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}