{"id":36409,"date":"2015-10-26T16:29:28","date_gmt":"2015-10-26T20:29:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=36409"},"modified":"2016-03-22T19:52:41","modified_gmt":"2016-03-22T23:52:41","slug":"podcast-110-dr-keith-ward-on-christ-and-the-cosmos-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-110-dr-keith-ward-on-christ-and-the-cosmos-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 110 \u2013 Dr. Keith Ward on Christ and the Cosmos \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_612\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-36409-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities110.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities110.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities110.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities110.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=36409-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities110.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities110.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-36410\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Keith-Ward-philosopher-theologian.jpg\" alt=\"Dr Keith Ward, philosopher theologian\" width=\"455\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Keith-Ward-philosopher-theologian.jpg 552w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Keith-Ward-philosopher-theologian-300x290.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Keith-Ward-philosopher-theologian-420x406.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Keith-Ward-philosopher-theologian-460x445.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Keith-Ward-philosopher-theologian-90x87.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 455px) 100vw, 455px\" \/><strong>What does it mean to say that God is triune?<\/strong> Is this to say that the one God is a loving <strong>community<\/strong> of\u00a0three\u00a0divine selves? Or is there but <strong>one self<\/strong> common to the Trinity? And does the doctrine of the Trinity, properly understood, say something about how God intrinsically is in himself (or if you like, in &#8220;Godself&#8221;)? Or is the Trinity about how the ultimate source of all else appears to us human beings? Is God, most properly speaking, an &#8220;it&#8221;or a &#8220;he,&#8221; or a &#8220;she&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p>In this episode we tackle these questions, as addressed in Dr. Keith Ward&#8217;s\u00a0<strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1107531810\" target=\"_blank\">Christ and the Cosmos: A Reformulation of Trinitarian Doctrine<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B012GS2GAA\" target=\"_blank\">kindle<\/a>). In Dr. Ward&#8217;s view, trinitarian teaching needs to be played, as it were, in a new key, to be understandable and relevant today. He explains in some detail <strong>how, in his view, God is triune<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you agree?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both \u2013 <strong><a title=\"how to rate us at iTunes and Stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/review\/\" target=\"_blank\">directions here<\/a><\/strong>). It is also available on\u00a0<a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/rUHahrfB3tw?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a> (you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>). If you would like to\u00a0<strong>upload audio feedback<\/strong> for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">put the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can <strong>support the trinities podcast by ordering anything through Amazon.com<\/strong> after clicking through one of our links. We get a small % of your purchase, even though your price is not increased. (If you see \u201ctrinities\u201d in you\u00a0url while at Amazon, then we\u2019ll get it.)<\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-36421 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Keith-Ward-Concepts-of-God.jpg\" alt=\"Keith Ward - Concepts of God\" width=\"302\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Keith-Ward-Concepts-of-God.jpg 302w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Keith-Ward-Concepts-of-God-191x300.jpg 191w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Keith-Ward-Concepts-of-God-90x142.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px\" \/>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.keithward.org.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Ward\u2019s website<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.closertotruth.com\/contributor\/keith-ward\/profile\" target=\"_blank\">interviews of Dr. Ward by Robert Lawrence Kuhn<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1107531810\" target=\"_blank\">Christ and the Cosmos: A Reformulation of Trinitarian Doctrine<\/a><\/em><\/strong>\u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B012GS2GAA\" target=\"_blank\">kindle<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1851682848\" target=\"_blank\">God: A Guide for the Perplexed<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0198263759\" target=\"_blank\">Religion and Revelation: A Theology of Revelation<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1851680640\" target=\"_blank\">Concepts of God: Images of the Divine in the Five Religious Traditions<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1851680403\" target=\"_blank\">In Defence of the Soul<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0802845088\" target=\"_blank\">Is Religion Dangerous?<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1780743173\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Morality, Autonomy, and God<\/em><\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/B00G92AI00\" target=\"_blank\">kindle<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>theologian <a href=\"http:\/\/people.bu.edu\/wwildman\/bce\/moltmann.htm\" target=\"_blank\">J\u00fcrgen Moltmann<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-57-richard-swinburne-on-the-trinity\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 57 \u2013 Richard Swinburne on the Trinity<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-25-pastor-sean-finnegan-about-the-holy-spirit-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 25 \u2013 Pastor Sean Finnegan on \u201cthe Holy Spirit\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/identity\/\" target=\"_blank\">(numerical) identity<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/kant\/#TraIde\" target=\"_blank\">Immanuel Kant on things in themselves (&#8220;noumena&#8221;) vs. things as they appear to us (phenomena)<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Grossman_Ewell_Grainger\/Bassooniana\/Grossman_Ewell_Grainger_-_Bassooniana_-_04_-_Roennes_Trio_for_Three_Bassoons\" target=\"_blank\">Roennes, Trio for Three Bassoons<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Grossman_Ewell_Grainger\/\" target=\"_blank\">Grossman, Ewell, Grainger<\/a>. <object width=\"300\" height=\"50\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"track=https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/116412.xml\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"sameDomain\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" width=\"300\" height=\"50\" flashvars=\"track=https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/116412.xml\" allowscriptaccess=\"sameDomain\" \/><\/object><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What does it mean to say that God is triune? 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