{"id":36718,"date":"2015-12-28T17:08:24","date_gmt":"2015-12-28T22:08:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=36718"},"modified":"2016-03-22T19:37:58","modified_gmt":"2016-03-22T23:37:58","slug":"podcast-119-the-son-of-god-3-dr-dustin-smiths-socinian-view-of-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-119-the-son-of-god-3-dr-dustin-smiths-socinian-view-of-jesus\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 119 \u2013 The Son of God 3 \u2013 Dr. Dustin Smith&#8217;s &#8220;Socinian&#8221; view of Jesus"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_3600\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-36718-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities119.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities119.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities119.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities119.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=36718-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities119.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities119.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-36720 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Dustin-Smith-Atlanta-Bible-College-2015.jpg\" alt=\"Dr Dustin Smith - Atlanta Bible College 2015\" width=\"474\" height=\"344\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Dustin-Smith-Atlanta-Bible-College-2015.jpg 762w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Dustin-Smith-Atlanta-Bible-College-2015-300x218.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Dustin-Smith-Atlanta-Bible-College-2015-420x305.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Dustin-Smith-Atlanta-Bible-College-2015-460x334.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Dustin-Smith-Atlanta-Bible-College-2015-90x65.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 474px) 100vw, 474px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In this last of three interviews with the authors of <em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1498224261\" target=\"_blank\">The Son of God: Three Views of the Identity of Jesus<\/a><\/strong><\/em>, we talk with Dr. Dustin Smith of Atlanta Bible College. Topics discussed include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>How Dr. Smith came to hold this view, starting from a more conventional evangelical point of view.<\/li>\n<li>In what sense is this a &#8220;<strong>Socinian<\/strong>&#8221; christology?<\/li>\n<li>Why in the book does he start his case by focusing on the <strong>Old Testament<\/strong>?<\/li>\n<li>When in his view did Jesus begin to exist?<\/li>\n<li>How does Dr. Smith address objections that in his view Jesus is &#8220;<strong>just a man<\/strong>,&#8221; unable to atone for the sins of humanity, forgive sins, receive worship, or be called &#8220;Lord&#8221;?<\/li>\n<li>If this christology is, as alleged, biblical, why\u00a0is it so unpopular with traditional, non-theologically-liberal Christians?<\/li>\n<li>How has this change of views about Jesus affected his spiritual life?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Does Dr. Smith make a strong case?<\/strong> Let us know what you think in the comments below, in our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/trinities\/\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook group<\/a>, \u00a0upload audio feedback for possible inclusion in a future episode of this podcast,\u00a0<a title=\"upload audio feedback for the trinities podcast here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/filedrop\/filedrop_hosted.php?drop=96df5ea43b9b7c6582cb95b8c5a7259d7cd8109e0cd009d4a5ecd099cc7e64fb\" target=\"_blank\">putting the audio file here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can also <strong>listen t<\/strong><strong>o this episode on<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities podcast @ stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/s?fid=54067&amp;refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\">Stitcher<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0or\u00a0<strong><a title=\"trinities @ itunes\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/id690304581?mt=2&amp;uo=4&amp;at=11l5XS\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>\u00a0(please subscribe, rate, and review<\/strong>\u00a0us in either or both \u2013 <strong><a title=\"how to rate us at iTunes and Stitcher\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/review\/\" target=\"_blank\">directions here<\/a><\/strong>). It is also available on\u00a0<a title=\"trinities podcast youtube playlist\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/_mb2I2jQVDw?list=PLMCt15e8gG-g7t7wo9MCq9KSDSsvGNcsm\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a> (you can\u00a0<a title=\"youtube subscription link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/khanpadawan?sub_confirmation=1\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>You can <strong>support the trinities podcast by ordering anything through Amazon.com<\/strong> after <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/ref=assoc_res_sw_logo?tag=trinitiesorg-20&amp;linkCode=w14&amp;linkID=ISZSX35I27NLT3KG\" target=\"_blank\">clicking through one of our links<\/a>. We get a small % of your purchase, even though your price is not increased. (If you see \u201ctrinities\u201d in you\u00a0url while at Amazon, then we\u2019ll get it.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for his episode:\u00a0<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1498224261\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-36620 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-son-of-god-three-views.jpg\" alt=\"the son of god three views\" width=\"395\" height=\"598\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-son-of-god-three-views.jpg 395w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-son-of-god-three-views-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/the-son-of-god-three-views-90x136.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 395px) 100vw, 395px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/dustinmartyr.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Dustin Martyr Blog<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1498224261\" target=\"_blank\">The Son of God: Three Views of the Identity of Jesus<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<li><em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1499367198\" target=\"_blank\">Paradoxical Conquering in the Apocalypse of John<\/a><\/em><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.atlantabiblecollege.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Atlanta Bible College<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-61-dr-dustin-smith-on-preexistence-in-ancient-jewish-thought\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 61 \u2013 Dr. Dustin Smith on preexistence in ancient Jewish thought<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-62-dr-dustin-smith-on-the-preexistence-of-jesus-in-the-gospel-of-john\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 62 \u2013 Dr. Dustin Smith on the preexistence of Jesus in the gospel of John<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>texts discussed<\/strong> in this interview\n<ul>\n<li>Colossians 1:14-18<\/li>\n<li>Matthew 1:1-25<\/li>\n<li>Luke 1:26-38, Luke 3:21-38<\/li>\n<li>Proverbs 3:19;\u00a0Proverbs 8:1-31<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Wisdom+7&amp;version=NRSV\" target=\"_blank\">Wisdom 7<\/a>;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Wisdom+9&amp;version=NRSV\" target=\"_blank\">Wisdom 9<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Baruch+3&amp;version=NRSV\" target=\"_blank\">Baruch\u00a03<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Hebrews 1:1-9<\/li>\n<li>2 Samuel 7:14<\/li>\n<li>Psalm 2:7<\/li>\n<li>Hebrews 1:10-12<\/li>\n<li>Psalms 102:25-27<\/li>\n<li>Deuteronomy 18:18<\/li>\n<li>Acts 2:22<\/li>\n<li>Romans 5:12-21;\u00a0Romans 17:31<\/li>\n<li>1 Timothy 2:5<\/li>\n<li>John 20:23<\/li>\n<li>Psalm 110:1<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-36732\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-preaching.jpg\" alt=\"peter preaching\" width=\"333\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-preaching.jpg 333w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-preaching-250x300.jpg 250w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/peter-preaching-90x108.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 333px) 100vw, 333px\" \/><\/li>\n<li>1 Chronicles 29:20<\/li>\n<li>Acts 2:36<\/li>\n<li>Philippians 2:5-11<\/li>\n<li>Hebrews\u00a02:18; 4:15<\/li>\n<li>Mark 10:45<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>related trinities posts and podcasts<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/christological-rhetoric\/\" target=\"_blank\">A Lesson in Christological Rhetoric<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/only-god-can-forgive-sins-false\/\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cOnly God can forgive sins.\u201d False.<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-16-how-is-jesus-the-one-lord\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 16 \u2013 How is Jesus \u201cthe one Lord\u201d?<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"line-height: 1.5;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/a-mini-course-on-atonement-by-dr-josh-thurow\/\" target=\"_blank\">a mini-course on atonement by Dr. Josh Thurow<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/who-should-christians-worship\/\" target=\"_blank\">Who Should Christians Worship?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-49-2-interpretations-of-philippians-2-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 49 \u2013 2 interpretations of Philippians 2 \u2013 part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s <strong>thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Doctor_Turtle\/~\/youre_right_but_Im_me\" target=\"_blank\">You&#8217;re Right But I&#8217;m Me<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong> by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Doctor_Turtle\/\" target=\"_blank\">Doctor Turtle<\/a>. <object width=\"300\" height=\"50\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"track=https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/129548.xml\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"sameDomain\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" src=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/swf\/trackplayer.swf\" width=\"300\" height=\"50\" flashvars=\"track=https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/services\/playlists\/embed\/track\/129548.xml\" allowscriptaccess=\"sameDomain\" \/><\/object><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this last of three interviews with the authors of The Son of God: Three Views of the Identity of Jesus, we talk with Dr. Dustin Smith of Atlanta Bible College.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":36720,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,16,15,54,33,56,57,3,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-36718","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-books","category-christology","category-debates","category-incarnation","category-interview","category-podcast","category-theories","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36718","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=36718"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36718\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37330,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36718\/revisions\/37330"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/36720"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36718"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=36718"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=36718"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}