{"id":37314,"date":"2016-03-24T02:07:08","date_gmt":"2016-03-24T06:07:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=37314"},"modified":"2016-03-22T14:08:41","modified_gmt":"2016-03-22T18:08:41","slug":"10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-trinity-3-take-mystery-appeals-mystery-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-trinity-3-take-mystery-appeals-mystery-part-3\/","title":{"rendered":"10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity \u2013 #3 Take the mystery out of appeals to &#8220;mystery&#8221; &#8211; Part 3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-about-the-trinity-3-take-the-mystery-out-of-appeals-to-mystery-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">our yarn from last time<\/a>, imagine that our guru Opi\u00a0changes his strategy. Now he instead tells his disciples that &#8220;Opi is the dopi&#8221; means <strong>that Opi is eternally the uniquely smartest teacher, and also that eternally, there is a teacher smarter than Opi<\/strong>. Here, he teaches them to believe an apparent contradiction, that eternally, Opi is and is not the smartest teacher.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-37120\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-512x1024.png\" alt=\"girl-306438 from pixabay\" width=\"248\" height=\"496\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-512x1024.png 512w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-150x300.png 150w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-768x1536.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-420x840.png 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-460x920.png 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay-90x180.png 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/girl-306438-from-pixabay.png 960w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 248px) 100vw, 248px\" \/><strong>But is it a <em>real<\/em> contradiction, and so false?<\/strong> After all, sometimes an <em>apparent<\/em> contradiction turns out to be <em>only<\/em> apparent. If Sally says <strong>&#8220;I&#8217;m tall\u00a0and I&#8217;m not,&#8221;<\/strong> what she says may be true after all, if what she means is that she&#8217;s somewhat tall but not very tall. Or perhaps she means that she&#8217;s tall relative to some people, but not tall relative to others.<\/p>\n<p>So the sentence &#8220;Opi is eternally the uniquely smartest teacher, and also eternally, there is a teacher smarter than Opi&#8221; <strong>may actually be coherent and true, <em>if<\/em> there is at least one\u00a0equivocal term in it<\/strong>, a\u00a0term with more than one meaning. For instance, perhaps &#8220;Opi&#8221; refers to one man in the first clause, and to a different man in the second clause. Or maybe &#8220;smartest&#8221; has to do with one sort of intelligence, and &#8220;smarter&#8221; has to do with another sort. But let&#8217;s suppose that our guru <strong>refuses to clarify<\/strong>, refuses to show his disciples that at least one term is equivocal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It seems they ought to conclude<\/strong> that what he says is incoherent, and so false. They&#8217;re <em>pretty sure<\/em> that the two parts can&#8217;t both be true. Are they <em>more<\/em> sure than this, that each one is true? It would seem not!<\/p>\n<p>This scenario illustrates\u00a0<strong>the sixth meaning of &#8220;the Trinity is a mystery.&#8221;<\/strong> One may mean that the Trinity doctrine is apparently self-contradictory, and not just at first glance, but whenever one thinks long and hard about it. Like our imagined guru Opi, they won&#8217;t and can&#8217;t tell us where there is any equivocation in trinitarian sentences, so that they may turn out to be coherent after all. At least in modern times, in part due to the profundities and perplexities of modern physics, this way of defending trinitarian belief has struck some\u00a0intelligent Christians as a reasonable procedure. But it seems<strong> more reasonable in the abstract<\/strong>, where one doesn&#8217;t actually say what apparent contradiction one has in mind. For instance, these three claims appear, about as clearly any three do, to be<strong> an inconsistent triad<\/strong> &#8211; a set such that if any two of them are true, the remaining one must be false.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Jesus just is God.<\/li>\n<li>The Father just is God.<\/li>\n<li>It is not the case that Jesus just is the Father.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>&#8220;Just is&#8221; means &#8220;is numerically the same as&#8221; in all three claims. If you must believe all three, then you must knowingly believe at least one false claim, even if you&#8217;re not sure which it is. Still, this may strike some as an exercise of epistemic humility. However,<strong>\u00a01 and 2 clearly imply<\/strong> this:<\/p>\n<p>4. Jesus just is the Father.<\/p>\n<p>How? Things numerically identical to the same thing (here, God) must also be numerically identical to one another. This is self-evident. Now pair 4 with 3:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>3. It is not the case that Jesus just is the Father.<\/p>\n<p>4. Jesus just is the Father.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Agreeing to both 3 and 4 doesn&#8217;t seem at all clever, humble, or sophisticated, does it? Their logical form is, respectively, not-P and P. You would be simultaneously\u00a0<strong>affirming and denying the same claim<\/strong>. Someone that asks you to affirm 1-3 is, because both you and he know that things identical to the same thing are identical to each other, is in effect asking you to affirm both 3 and 4. The thing seemed reasonable so long as you overlooked 4. But now, you can&#8217;t unsee it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But it <strong><em>could<\/em> be a <em>merely apparent<\/em> contradiction<\/strong>.&#8221; In <em>some<\/em> sense of &#8220;could,&#8221; yes. But no matter how many times you re-examine 3 and 4, they seem to be contradictories. If the contradiction were merely apparent, there would have to be an equivocation somewhere in their terms, but<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-37320\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640.png\" alt=\"dead-end-98934_640\" width=\"461\" height=\"461\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640.png 640w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640-420x420.png 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640-460x460.png 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dead-end-98934_640-90x90.png 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 461px) 100vw, 461px\" \/> one simply can&#8217;t see any such. One is stuck with thinking that this contradiction is real.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s how it goes generally with these matters. <strong>When a contradiction is gestured at from afar or obliquely<\/strong>, one thinks, &#8220;I can learn to live with that.&#8221; But when it&#8217;s dragged into the cold, harsh light of day, it&#8217;s just a bad old contradiction, a sure sign that your theorizing has gone astray somewhere. The humble thing is to admit that one must have made a mistake somewhere in one&#8217;s reasoning, and then to diligently try to find and correct that mistake.<\/p>\n<p>The humble thing is to admit that one must have made a mistake somewhere in one&#8217;s reasoning, and then to diligently try to find and correct that mistake. When you come to a dead end in your journey, you <strong>put the car in <\/strong>reverse\u00a0and find another way. You don&#8217;t get out of the car and celebrate, pretending that this was your destination all along.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Continuing our yarn from last time, imagine that our guru Opi\u00a0changes his strategy. Now he instead tells his disciples that &#8220;Opi is the dopi&#8221; means that Opi is eternally the uniquely smartest teacher, and also that eternally, there is a teacher smarter than Opi. Here, he teaches them to believe an apparent contradiction, that eternally,&hellip;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/10-steps-towards-getting-less-confused-trinity-3-take-mystery-appeals-mystery-part-3\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Read More &raquo;<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">10 steps towards getting less confused about the Trinity \u2013 #3 Take the mystery out of appeals to &#8220;mystery&#8221; &#8211; Part 3<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":37320,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[20,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37314","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-mystery","category-philosophy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37314","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37314"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37314\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37329,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37314\/revisions\/37329"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/37320"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37314"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37314"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37314"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}