{"id":37750,"date":"2016-06-06T13:30:17","date_gmt":"2016-06-06T17:30:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=37750"},"modified":"2016-06-06T13:30:17","modified_gmt":"2016-06-06T17:30:17","slug":"podcast-142-dr-r-t-mullins-coherence-classical-theism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-142-dr-r-t-mullins-coherence-classical-theism\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 142 &#8211; Dr. R.T. Mullins on the coherence of &#8220;classical&#8221; theism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2840\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-37750-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities142.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities142.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities142.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities142.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=37750-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities142.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities142.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-37751 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-1024x939.jpg\" alt=\"Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo\" width=\"442\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-1024x939.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-300x275.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-768x705.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-420x385.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-460x422.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo-90x83.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Return_of_the_Prodigal_Son_1667-1670_Murillo.jpg 1030w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 442px) 100vw, 442px\" \/><\/a>What is <strong>&#8220;classical&#8221; theism<\/strong>, and why is it controversial? In this episode Dr. Mullins and I discuss further themes from his book <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/019875518X\"><em>The End of the Timeless God<\/em><\/a><\/strong>. Is God outside of time (timeless, timelessly eternal)? Is God immutable (absolutely unchangeable)? Impassible (incapable of &#8220;passions&#8221;)? Simple (without any parts or meta physical components)?<\/p>\n<p>Such <strong>divine attributes<\/strong> are widely agreed on in historical Christian theologies. Interestingly, Dr. Mullins holds that a Christian should deny that God is timeless, immutable, impassible, or simple. In his view, these alleged divine attributes lack biblical support, and contradict biblical teachings about God.<\/p>\n<p>Last week we focused on timelessness. This week, the final three: <strong>immutability, impassibility, and simplicity<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Does Dr. Mullins make a strong case against these? Why or why not?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/nmhschool.academia.edu\/RyanMullins\">Dr. R.T. Mullins&#8217;s papers at Academia.edu<\/a><\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/019875518X\"><em>The End of the Timeless God<\/em><\/a><\/strong> (<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/019875518X\">kindle<\/a>)<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/019875518X\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-37737 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/RT-Mullins-The-End-of-the-Timeless-God.jpg\" alt=\"RT Mullins - The End of the Timeless God\" width=\"293\" height=\"445\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/RT-Mullins-The-End-of-the-Timeless-God.jpg 293w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/RT-Mullins-The-End-of-the-Timeless-God-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/RT-Mullins-The-End-of-the-Timeless-God-90x137.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 293px) 100vw, 293px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/download.springer.com\/static\/pdf\/133\/art%253A10.1007%252Fs11841-015-0497-6.pdf?originUrl=http%3A%2F%2Flink.springer.com%2Farticle%2F10.1007%2Fs11841-015-0497-6&amp;token2=exp=1465153233~acl=%2Fstatic%2Fpdf%2F133%2Fart%25253A10.1007%25252Fs11841-015-0497-6.pdf%3ForiginUrl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flink.springer.com%252Farticle%252F10.1007%252Fs11841-015-0497-6*~hmac=0c00e6503e67f94dbdbc7930298a469295d8c332acf770dae440666a9c294377\">The Difficulty\u00a0with Demarcating Panentheism<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Classical_theism\">classical theism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/classicaltheismproject.wordpress.com\/\">The Classical Theism Project<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Donald Viney, <a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/process-theism\/\">&#8220;Process Theism&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li>James Rissler, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.iep.utm.edu\/o-theism\/\">Open Theism<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>John Culp, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/panentheism\/\">Panentheism<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>John Laing, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iep.utm.edu\/middlekn\/\">&#8220;Middle Knowledge&#8221; [&#8220;Molinism&#8221;]<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>Timothy Pawl &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.iep.utm.edu\/div-immu\/\">Divine Immutability<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Chris Mortensen, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/change\/\">Change\u00a0and Inconsistency<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>William Vallicella, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/divine-simplicity\/\">Divine Simplicity<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.britannica.com\/biography\/Shankara\">Shankara \/ Samkara<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stephencharnock.com\/\">Stephen Charnock Project<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Texts discussed in this episode: Revelation 1:4, Ezekiel 10; Exodus 2:23-25; Hosea 1; Luke 15:11-32.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.coca-colacompany.com\/stories\/coke-lore-new-coke\">New Coke<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s <strong>thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/Descent_of_the_Goober_Monster\/Jesse_Spillane_-_Descent_of_the_Goober_Monster_-_06_Untitled\">Untitled<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong> by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/\">Jesse Spillane<\/a>, from his album &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/Descent_of_the_Goober_Monster\/\">Descent of the Goober Monster<\/a>.&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is &#8220;classical&#8221; theism, and why is it controversial? 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