{"id":38070,"date":"2016-10-24T12:47:17","date_gmt":"2016-10-24T16:47:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=38070"},"modified":"2016-10-24T12:47:17","modified_gmt":"2016-10-24T16:47:17","slug":"podcast-156-dr-j-r-daniel-kirk-on-a-man-attested-by-god-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-156-dr-j-r-daniel-kirk-on-a-man-attested-by-god-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 156 \u2013 Dr. J.R. Daniel Kirk on A Man Attested by God \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5216\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-38070-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities156.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities156.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities156.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities156.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=38070-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities156.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities156.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-38073 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/J-R-Daniel-Kirk-portrait-.jpg\" alt=\"Dr. J.R. Daniel Kirk\" width=\"438\" height=\"369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/J-R-Daniel-Kirk-portrait-.jpg 534w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/J-R-Daniel-Kirk-portrait--300x253.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/J-R-Daniel-Kirk-portrait--420x354.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/J-R-Daniel-Kirk-portrait--460x388.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/J-R-Daniel-Kirk-portrait--90x76.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 438px) 100vw, 438px\" \/><strong>If Jesus fulfills predictions about Yahweh, does this mean that he&#8217;s Yahweh?<\/strong> In this episode Dr. Kirk and I continue discussing his important new book <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/s\/ref=assoc_res_sw_view_all?tag=trinitiesorg-20&amp;link_code=w14&amp;linkID=ISZSX35I27NLT3KG&amp;_encoding=UTF-8&amp;field-keywords=a+man+attested+by+god\"><em>A Man Attested by God: The Human Jesus of the Synoptic Gospels<\/em><\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Is the <strong>difference between the synoptics and the fourth gospel<\/strong> that the former portray God as someone other than Jesus, while the latter shows Jesus to be God himself?<\/li>\n<li>What do the authors of the synoptics mean by calling Jesus &#8220;the <strong>Son of God<\/strong>&#8220;? Is this a way of saying that Jesus is divine?<\/li>\n<li>At several points in these gospels <strong>Jesus is worshiped<\/strong> or at least bowed to. Is the reader supposed to infer that Jesus is God himself?<\/li>\n<li>What about the many places where New Testament authors says that Jesus is <strong>fulfilling some Old Testament text which was originally about Yahweh<\/strong>? Isn&#8217;t this a way of sa<\/li>\n<li>Is Dr. Kirk suggesting that in the first three gospels Jesus is &#8220;<strong>a mere man<\/strong>&#8220;?<\/li>\n<li>What are the implications of Dr. Kirk&#8217;s thesis for<strong> biblical anthropology<\/strong>, for a biblical understanding of the nature and potential of human beings?<\/li>\n<li>Was Dr. Kirk&#8217;s work on this book influenced by any recent Christian <strong>unitarian scholarship?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[spp-tweet tweet=&#8221;If Jesus fulfills predictions about Yahweh, does this mean that he&#8217;s Yahweh?&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/s\/ref=assoc_res_sw_view_all?tag=trinitiesorg-20&amp;link_code=w14&amp;linkID=ISZSX35I27NLT3KG&amp;_encoding=UTF-8&amp;field-keywords=a+man+attested+by+god\"><em>A Man Attested by God: The Human Jesus of the Synoptic Gospels<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-38034 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"kirk-a-man-attested-by-god\" width=\"295\" height=\"442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-420x630.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-460x690.jpg 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God-90x135.jpg 90w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Kirk-A-man-attested-by-God.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 295px) 100vw, 295px\" \/><\/em><\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jrdkirk.com\/\">Dr. Kirk&#8217;s home page<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li>Dr. Kirk&#8217;s <strong>blog <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/storiedtheology\/\">Storied Theology<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jrdkirk\">@jrdkirk<\/a> ; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/jrdkirk\">Facebook.com\/jrdkirk<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xvrkQyM_ttI\">Dr. Kirk in conversation with Sir Anthony Buzzard and other biblical unitarians about<em> A Man Attested by God<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Leroy\u00a0Huizenga, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/booksandjournals.brillonline.com\/content\/journals\/10.1163\/187122008x340842\">Matt 1:1: \u201cSon of Abraham\u201d as Christological Category<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/anselm\/\">St. Anselm<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/sourcebooks.fordham.edu\/basis\/anselm-curdeus.asp\"><em>Cur Deus Homo<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>John 1:1, Matthew 2:11, Matthew 2:15, Matthew 28:9, Matthew 28:17, Exodus 20:3, 1 Chronicles 29:20,\u00a01 Chronicles 29:23, Psalm 45; Daniel 7:13-14; Matthew 14:33, 1 Peter 2:5, Hebrews 2:17, 1 Timothy 2:5, John 8:26, John 14:12, John 14:2, 1 Corinthians 15:45<\/li>\n<li><strong><a title=\"podcast 60 \u2013 Dr. Carl Mosser on deification in the Bible\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-60-dr-carl-mosser-on-deification-in-the-bible\/\">podcast 60 \u2013 Dr. Carl Mosser on deification in the Bible<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 59 \u2013 Dr. Carl Mosser on salvation as deification\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-59-dr-carl-mosser-on-salvation-as-deification\/\">podcast 59 \u2013 Dr. Carl Mosser on salvation as deification<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.deadseascrolls.org.il\/learn-about-the-scrolls\/introduction?locale=en_US\">the Qumran Caves Scrolls<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/who-should-christians-worship\/\"><strong>Who Should Christians Worship?<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-38084\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wise-men-worship-Jesus.jpg\" alt=\"wise-men-worship-jesus\" width=\"375\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wise-men-worship-Jesus.jpg 396w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wise-men-worship-Jesus-300x280.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/wise-men-worship-Jesus-90x84.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 375px) 100vw, 375px\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Richard Hays, <a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/1481304917\"><em>Echoes of Scriptures in the Gospel<\/em>s<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Some <strong>biblical unitarian resources<\/strong>:\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/christianmonotheism.com\/\">christianmonotheism.com<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/21stcr.org\/\">21st Century Reformation Online<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/focusonthekingdom.org\/index.html\">Restoration Fellowship<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblicalunitarian.com\/\">biblicalunitarian.com<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ewtn.com\/library\/COUNCILS\/v2revel.htm\"><em>Dei Verbum<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s <strong>thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Revolution_Void\/The_Politics_of_Desire\/revolution_void_-_08_-_the_simulation_hypothesis\">The Simulation Hypothesis<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong> by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Revolution_Void\/\">Revolution Void<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If Jesus fulfills predictions about Yahweh, does this mean that he&#8217;s 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