{"id":38148,"date":"2016-11-14T19:47:26","date_gmt":"2016-11-15T00:47:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=38148"},"modified":"2016-11-14T19:47:26","modified_gmt":"2016-11-15T00:47:26","slug":"podcast-159-aaron-arinder-on-ontological-pluralism-and-the-trinity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-159-aaron-arinder-on-ontological-pluralism-and-the-trinity\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 159 &#8211; Aaron Arinder on Ontological Pluralism and the Trinity"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_562\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-38148-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities159.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities159.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities159.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities159.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=38148-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities159.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities159.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-38151 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Delta_Omega_symbol.png\" alt=\"delta_omega_symbol\" width=\"199\" height=\"216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Delta_Omega_symbol.png 199w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Delta_Omega_symbol-90x98.png 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Can metaphysics show how trinitarian theology is coherent?<\/strong>\u00a0Against suspicions that somehow trinitarian theology is incoherent, many philosophers have <a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/\">suggested interpretations<\/a> of the orthodox formulas which are designed to be coherent. This work is ongoing, and sometimes seemingly new strategies are explored.<\/p>\n<p>In this talk from the recent Eastern Division meeting of the Society of Christian Philosophers held at Rutgers University in October 2016, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/philosophy.syr.edu\/Personnel\/PHIL_Gradstudents-refs-listing.html\">Aaron Arinder<\/a>, a PhD student in <a href=\"http:\/\/philosophy.syr.edu\/\">Philosophy at Syracuse University<\/a><\/strong>, explores an interpretation of the Trinity in terms of what metaphysicians call &#8220;<strong>ontological pluralism<\/strong>.&#8221; This is the view that not only are there fundamentally different <em>kinds of things<\/em>, but that there are fundamentally different<em> kinds of existence. <\/em>If this is true then we ought not refer to just the sum total of things that exist (full stop), but rather, we should talk about &#8220;all,&#8221; &#8220;none,&#8221; or &#8220;some&#8221; relative to various\u00a0fundamentally <strong>different domains<\/strong> of realities, each a domain of things existing in a certain way. In the talk he refers to the domain including the &#8220;divine Persons&#8221; of the Trinity as <strong>&#8220;Delta&#8221;<\/strong> and the other domain, the one which includes the one God, <strong>&#8220;Omega.&#8221; <\/strong>In his view, there exists (in one way) one God, but in another way there exist three gods. But it doesn&#8217;t follow that there in any sense are four gods.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/dl.dropboxusercontent.com\/u\/39138\/Aaron%20Arinder%202016_Eastern_SCP_Handout.pdf\">Here&#8217;s his handout for this talk<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thanks to Aaron Arinder<\/strong> for letting us all &#8220;sit in&#8221; on his session, and thanks to all the questioners for allowing me to include their questions in this episode.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/en\/dolphin-ocean-wave-1679468\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-38152 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dolphin-1679468_1920.jpg\" alt=\"dolphin-1679468_1920\" width=\"450\" height=\"382\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dolphin-1679468_1920.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dolphin-1679468_1920-300x255.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dolphin-1679468_1920-420x357.jpg 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dolphin-1679468_1920-90x76.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 2 \u2013 the \u201cAthanasian Creed\u201d\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-2-the-athanasian-creed\/\">podcast 2 \u2013 the \u201cAthanasian Creed\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/#RelIde\">relative identity Trinity theories<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=rational+reinterpretations\">rational reconstructions (reinterpretations) of Trinity formulas<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/monotheism\/\">Wainwright on monotheism<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>present-day defenders of ontological pluralism (in metaphysics)<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.krismcdaniel.com\/\">Kris\u00a0McDaniel<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.slu.edu\/~turnerjt\/\">Jason Turner<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.osu.edu\/people\/caplan.16\">Ben Caplan<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/quantification\/\">Quantifiers and Quantification<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.philosophypages.com\/lg\/e12.htm\">Quantification theory<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 68 \u2013 Dr. Harriet Baber on Relative Identity and the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-68-dr-harriet-baber-on-relative-identity-and-the-trinity\/\">podcast 68 \u2013 Dr. Harriet Baber on Relative Identity and the Trinity<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music has been <strong>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/DURDEN\/55041\">Paper Planes<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong> by Durden, featuring Airtone.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Can metaphysics show how trinitarian theology is coherent?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":38151,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,38,9,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38148","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-monotheism","category-philosophy","category-podcast"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38148","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38148"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38148\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38159,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38148\/revisions\/38159"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/38151"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38148"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38148"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38148"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}