{"id":38251,"date":"2016-12-26T12:56:09","date_gmt":"2016-12-26T17:56:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=38251"},"modified":"2016-12-26T12:56:09","modified_gmt":"2016-12-26T17:56:09","slug":"podcast-165-alvan-lamsons-on-the-doctrine-of-two-natures-in-jesus-christ-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-165-alvan-lamsons-on-the-doctrine-of-two-natures-in-jesus-christ-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 165 &#8211; Alvan Lamson&#8217;s On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ &#8211; Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8313\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-38251-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities165.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities165.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities165.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities165.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=38251-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/p\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities165.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities165.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-38253\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1-Person-in-2-natures.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1-Person-in-2-natures.png 400w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1-Person-in-2-natures-300x169.png 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/1-Person-in-2-natures-90x51.png 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/>All Christians have always believed <strong>that Jesus Christ is one person with two natures<\/strong>, a divine nature and a human nature, right?<\/p>\n<p>Wrong. In today&#8217;s podcast <strong>we hear from a learned Congregationalist minister<\/strong> who rejected such theories on several grounds, in his short 1828 book\u00a0<strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/dl.dropboxusercontent.com\/u\/39138\/Lamson%201828%20-%20The%20Doctrine%20of%20Two%20Natures.pdf\">On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Alvan Lamson (1792-1864)<\/strong> was a Harvard-educated minister who was for some time was a co-editor of the periodical <em>The Christian Examiner<\/em>. He&#8217;s most remembered now for his magisterial book <em>The Church of the First Three Centuries<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>In this first part we hear his <strong>first three objections,<\/strong> dealing with history and coherence of these claims, and his charge that such theories make Jesus a liar. Do these objections stick?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-38258\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lamson-Alvan-On-the-Doctrine-of-Two-Natures-in-Jesus-Christ.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"382\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lamson-Alvan-On-the-Doctrine-of-Two-Natures-in-Jesus-Christ.png 543w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lamson-Alvan-On-the-Doctrine-of-Two-Natures-in-Jesus-Christ-179x300.png 179w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lamson-Alvan-On-the-Doctrine-of-Two-Natures-in-Jesus-Christ-420x703.png 420w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lamson-Alvan-On-the-Doctrine-of-Two-Natures-in-Jesus-Christ-460x770.png 460w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lamson-Alvan-On-the-Doctrine-of-Two-Natures-in-Jesus-Christ-90x151.png 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\" \/><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/dl.dropboxusercontent.com\/u\/39138\/Lamson%201828%20-%20The%20Doctrine%20of%20Two%20Natures.pdf\"><em>On the Doctrine of Two Natures in Jesus Christ<\/em><\/a><\/strong> from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/various-authors\/sixteen-american-unitarian-tracts\/paperback\/product-3871427.html\"><em>Sixteen American Unitarian Tracts<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/church-first-three-centuries-formation\/dp\/1425546390\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1482761070&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=Church+First+Three+Centuries%2C+Or%2C+Notices+Lives+Opinions+Early+Fathers%2C+Special+Reference+Doctrine+Trinity%2C+Illustrating+Its+Late+Origin+Gradual+Formation\"><em>The Church of the First Three Centuries: Or, Notices of the Lives and Opinions of the Early Fathers, with Special Reference to the Doctrine of the Trinity, Illustrating its Late Origin and Gradual Formation<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-74-justin-martyrs-dialogue-with-trypho-part-1\/\">podcast 74 \u2013 Justin Martyr\u2019s Dialogue with Trypho \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=Origen\">posts on Origen<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Denis_P%C3%A9tau\">Petavius<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.iep.utm.edu\/cudworth\/\">Ralph Cudworth<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-30-the-council-of-nicea\/\">podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ewtn.com\/faith\/teachings\/incac2.htm\">Dogmatic Definition of the Council of Chalcedon, 451<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-145-tis-mystery-immortal-dies\/\">podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-143-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-conciliar-christology-part-1\/\">podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theopedia.com\/council-of-ephesus\">The Council of Ephesus, 431<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-86-kermit-zarley-on-distinguishing-jesus-and-god\/\">podcast 86 \u2013 Kermit Zarley on distinguishing Jesus and God<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/jeremy-myers-asks-did-jesus-learn\/\">Jeremy Myers asks: \u201cDid Jesus Learn?\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/cathen\/10195b.htm\">mental reservation<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>Acts 2:24, Acts 2:32, Matthew 24:36, Mark 10:18, John 5:30.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Josh_Woodward\/Breadcrumbs\/JoshWoodward-Breadcrumbs-NoVox-06-StarsCollide\">Stars Collide (Instrumental Version<\/a>&#8221; 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