{"id":38371,"date":"2017-01-24T09:20:19","date_gmt":"2017-01-24T14:20:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=38371"},"modified":"2017-01-30T10:18:58","modified_gmt":"2017-01-30T15:18:58","slug":"podcast-169-athanasiuss-on-the-nicene-council-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-169-athanasiuss-on-the-nicene-council-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 169 &#8211; Athanasius&#8217;s On the Nicene Council &#8211; Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6878\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-38371-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities169.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities169.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities169.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities169.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=38371-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities169.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities169.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Saint_Athanasius_Icon_in_Saint_Athanasius_Church_in_Varna,_Stergios_Dimitriou,_1853.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-38372 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Saint_Athanasius_Icon_in_Saint_Athanasius_Church_in_Varna_Stergios_Dimitriou_1853.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"327\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Saint_Athanasius_Icon_in_Saint_Athanasius_Church_in_Varna_Stergios_Dimitriou_1853.jpg 327w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Saint_Athanasius_Icon_in_Saint_Athanasius_Church_in_Varna_Stergios_Dimitriou_1853-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Saint_Athanasius_Icon_in_Saint_Athanasius_Church_in_Varna_Stergios_Dimitriou_1853-90x136.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 327px) 100vw, 327px\" \/><\/a>With this episode we continue our <strong>series on the 4th-century creed-producing councils of catholic bishops<\/strong>\u00a0(see below for links to the earlier episodes in this series).<\/p>\n<p>At this point in our story, the early 350s, we meet the man who is usually cast is the singular<strong> hero of the story<\/strong>: the famous <strong>Athanasius<\/strong> of Alexandria, aka St. Athanasius. We hear about his background and his <strong>troubled early tenure<\/strong> as bishop of Alexandria, Egypt, and what led to his officially declared (but not enforced) deposition and excommunication.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Then we hear the man himself<\/strong>, the first three chapters of his\u00a0<strong><em>On the Nicene Council<\/em><\/strong>, also called <em>Defence of the Nicene Definition<\/em>, or by its Latin title<em> De Decretis<\/em>. This is the <strong>first known work of his in which he aggressively defends the new creedal language<\/strong> introduced at the famous council in 325, namely the term <em>homoousion<\/em> (&#8220;same essence&#8221; or &#8220;same substance&#8221; or &#8220;same being&#8221;), as describing the metaphysical relationship between the Father and the Son. This is a detailed letter to someone who has been <strong>arguing with &#8220;Eusebians,&#8221;<\/strong>\u00a0catholics who were inclined to think that Nicea&#8217;s new language was unhelpful, and who apparently objected that it was unscriptural. Probably too they thought that Father and Son were united more by will than by &#8220;nature&#8221; or &#8220;essence;&#8221; at any rate, Athanasius labels them <strong>&#8220;Arians&#8221;<\/strong> and lumps them together with others and attempts to school them in proper theology. We get to hear the first three chapters of his lesson.<\/p>\n<p>[spp-tweet tweet=&#8221;Athanasius&#8217;s deposition and his debut as defender of Nicea.&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-38376\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Thug-Life-logo.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"271\" height=\"302\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Thug-Life-logo.jpg 394w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Thug-Life-logo-269x300.jpg 269w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Thug-Life-logo-90x101.jpg 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 271px) 100vw, 271px\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/schaff\/npnf204.xiv.ii.i.html\"><strong><em>Defence of the Nicene Definition<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Khaled Anatolios, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Retrieving-Nicaea-Development-Trinitarian-Doctrine\/dp\/080103132X\/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1485265701&amp;sr=8-1-fkmr0&amp;keywords=Anatolios%2C+Retrieving+Nicea\"><em>Retrieving Nicea: The Development and Meaning of Trinitarian Doctrine<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Khaled Anatolios, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/s\/ref=assoc_res_sw_view_all?tag=trinitiesorg-20&amp;link_code=w14&amp;linkID=ISZSX35I27NLT3KG&amp;_encoding=UTF-8&amp;field-keywords=Khaled+Anatolios%2C+Athanasius\"><em>Athanasius<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong>R.P.C. Hanson, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/080103146X\" target=\"_blank\">The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/li>\n<li>Frances Young, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/s\/ref=assoc_res_sw_view_all?tag=trinitiesorg-20&amp;link_code=w14&amp;linkID=ISZSX35I27NLT3KG&amp;_encoding=UTF-8&amp;field-keywords=Frances+Young%2C+From+Nicea+to+Chalcedon\"><em>From Nicea to Chalcedon<\/em><\/a>, 2nd ed.<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 115 \u2013 the aborted council at Serdica in 343\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-115-the-aborted-council-at-serdica-in-343\/\">podcast 115 \u2013 the aborted council at Serdica in 343<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 114 \u2013 the recycled creed (342-359)\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-114-the-recycled-creed\/\">podcast 114 \u2013 the recycled creed (342-359)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 113 \u2013 the council at Antioch in 341\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-113-the-council-at-antioch-in-341\/\">podcast 113 \u2013 the council at Antioch in 341<\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a title=\"podcast 31 \u2013 Dr. William Hasker on the \u201cArian\u201d Controversy\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-31-william-hasker-on-the-arian-controversy\/\">podcast 31 \u2013 Dr. William Hasker on the \u201cArian\u201d Controversy<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-30-the-council-of-nicea\/\">podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 29 \u2013 Arius\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-29-arius\/\">podcast 29 \u2013 Arius<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/Descent_of_the_Goober_Monster\/Jesse_Spillane_-_Descent_of_the_Goober_Monster_-_05_Cityscape_Backdrop\">Cityscape Backdrop<\/a>&#8221; by Jesse Spillane.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With this episode we continue our series on the 4th-century creed-producing councils of catholic bishops.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":38372,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,15,58,14,33,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38371","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-christology","category-creeds","category-history","category-incarnation","category-podcast"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38371","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38371"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38371\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38428,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38371\/revisions\/38428"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/38372"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38371"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38371"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38371"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}