{"id":38716,"date":"2017-03-20T19:51:16","date_gmt":"2017-03-20T23:51:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=38716"},"modified":"2017-03-20T19:51:16","modified_gmt":"2017-03-20T23:51:16","slug":"podcast-176-photinus-of-sirmium","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-176-photinus-of-sirmium\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 176 &#8211; Photinus of Sirmium"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8075\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-38716-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities176.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities176.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities176.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities176.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=38716-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities176.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities176.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/9\/90\/Munk%C3%A1csy_Ecce_homo_A.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-38718\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Munk\u00e1csy_Ecce_homo_detail.jpg\" alt=\"&quot;Behold, the man.&quot;\" width=\"539\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Munk\u00e1csy_Ecce_homo_detail.jpg 1163w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Munk\u00e1csy_Ecce_homo_detail-450x303.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Munk\u00e1csy_Ecce_homo_detail-768x516.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Munk\u00e1csy_Ecce_homo_detail-1024x689.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 539px) 100vw, 539px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Is the Messiah a <strong>&#8220;mere man&#8221;<\/strong>?\u00a0<strong>Photinus<\/strong> of Sirmium was a <strong>bishop c. 343-357<\/strong> who held that the one God is the Father, and that the man Jesus is his unique Son and Messiah. <strong>He did not believe that<\/strong> Jesus always existed, or that he was involved in the creation of the cosmos. Although he was a student of <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-175-marcellus-of-ancyra\/\">Marcellus of Ancyra<\/a>, his views seem to have been those of present-day biblical unitarians. How can he have disagreed with both <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-175-marcellus-of-ancyra\/\">one-hypostasis<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-173-eusebius-of-caesarea\/\">two-hypostasis<\/a> theologies of this era? <strong>Didn&#8217;t he read the gospel according to John?<\/strong> Surviving reports suggest that he <em>focused<\/em> on it! In this episode we&#8217;ll hear about his life and works, his christology, the charge of &#8220;adoptionism&#8221; and other ancient objections to his views, his fate at the hands of the bishops, and what seem to have been some of his <strong>favorite biblical texts<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thanks to my friend John<\/strong> for again being our voice of the apostle John!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul id=\"lcp_instance_0\" class=\"lcp_catlist\">\n<li><a title=\"podcast 172 \u2013 The Creed of the Long Lines (344)\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-172-the-creed-of-the-long-lines-344\/\">podcast 172 \u2013 The Creed of the Long Lines (344)<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-174-the-first-sirmian-creed-351\/\">podcast 174 \u2013 The First Sirmian creed (351)<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"podcast 175 \u2013 Marcellus of Ancyra\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-175-marcellus-of-ancyra\/\">podcast 175 \u2013 Marcellus of Ancyra<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nathaniel_Lardner\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-38719\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Nathaniel-Lardner.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"183\" height=\"249\" \/><strong>Nathaniel Lardner<\/strong><\/a>,\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/nathaniel-lardner\/lardner-on-the-trinity\/paperback\/product-4072119.html\">Lardner on the Trinity<\/a>.<\/em><\/li>\n<li>Lydia Agnew Speller, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/235912096_New_Light_on_the_Photinians_the_Evidence_of_Ambrosiaster\">&#8220;New light on the Photinians: the evidence of Ambrosiaster,&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0<em>Journal of Theological Studies<\/em>\u00a034:1 (April 1983): 99-113;\u00a0D.H. Williams, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/4125293?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents\">\u201cMonarchianism and Photinus as the Persistent Heretical Face of the Fourth Century,\u201d<\/a> <em>Harvard Theological Review<\/em> 99 (2006), 187-206.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/augustine\/\">Augustine of Hippo<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/trinities-20\/detail\/0872201864\"><em>Confessions<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-61-dr-dustin-smith-on-preexistence-in-ancient-jewish-thought\/\">podcast 61 \u2013 Dr. Dustin Smith on preexistence in ancient Jewish thought<\/a><\/strong>,\u00a0<a title=\"podcast 62 \u2013 Dr. Dustin Smith on the preexistence of Jesus in the gospel of John\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-62-dr-dustin-smith-on-the-preexistence-of-jesus-in-the-gospel-of-john\/\">podcast 62 \u2013 Dr. Dustin Smith on the preexistence of Jesus in the gospel of John<\/a>,\u00a0<a title=\"podcast 66 \u2013 Before Abraham was\u2026 what?\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-66-before-abraham-was-what\/\">podcast 66 \u2013 Before Abraham was\u2026 what?<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Isaiah 44:6-8; Luke 1:26-35; John 1:1-14, 2; John 2:18-22; John 3:31-36; John 8:58; John 16:25-30; John 17:1-5, Acts 2:36; 1 Corinthians 15:39-57; 1 Timothy 2:5.<\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Little_Glass_Men\/Simplify\/Procreation\">Procreation<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Little_Glass_Men\/\">Little Glass Men<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> His views seem to have been those of present-day biblical unitarians.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":38718,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,15,4,55,38,57,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38716","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-christology","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-holy-spirit","category-monotheism","category-podcast","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38716","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38716"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38716\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38772,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38716\/revisions\/38772"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/38718"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38716"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38716"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38716"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}