{"id":39472,"date":"2017-09-11T21:21:08","date_gmt":"2017-09-12T01:21:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=39472"},"modified":"2019-02-11T14:15:56","modified_gmt":"2019-02-11T19:15:56","slug":"podcast-193-review-of-sanderss-the-deep-things-of-god-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-193-review-of-sanderss-the-deep-things-of-god-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 193 &#8211; Review of Sanders&#8217;s The Deep Things of God &#8211; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7029\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-39472-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities193.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities193.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities193.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities193.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=39472-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities193.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities193.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-39473\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/c-s-lewis-450x220.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/c-s-lewis-450x220.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/c-s-lewis.jpg 597w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/>In this second part of my<strong> review of Dr. Fred Sanders&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Deep-Things-God-Second-Everything\/dp\/1433556375\/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504548470&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=sanders%2C+the+deep+things+of+God\"><em>The Deep Things of God<\/em><\/a> <\/strong>(<a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-192-review-of-sanderss-the-deep-things-of-god-part-1\/\">part 1 here<\/a>), I discuss the following questions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Is New Testament teaching on <strong>prayer<\/strong> &#8220;trinitarian&#8221;?<\/li>\n<li>How, according to Dr. Sanders, should the claim that &#8220;God exists in three Persons&#8221; be interpreted? That is, going beyond the language, just what is the theological <strong>theory<\/strong> here?<\/li>\n<li>Does C.S. Lewis show us how to<strong> defend the coherence<\/strong> of the idea that God is one being even while being three Persons?<\/li>\n<li>What, according to Dr. Sanders, is the<strong> crisis in contemporary trinitarian systematic theology<\/strong>, when it comes to the Bible?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-39476\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sanders1-440x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"440\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sanders1-440x450.jpg 440w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sanders1-768x785.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sanders1-1002x1024.jpg 1002w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sanders1.jpg 1103w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/>I also suggest a few corrections re: things like councils, Irenaeus, and alleged implications of unitarian Christian theologies.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Have you read <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Deep-Things-God-Second-Everything\/dp\/1433556375\/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504548470&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=sanders%2C+the+deep+things+of+God\"><em>The Deep Things of God<\/em><\/a>?<\/strong> What did you think? Let us know in the comments below or on the<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/trinities\/?fref=nf\"> podcast Facebook page<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Deep-Things-God-Second-Everything\/dp\/1433556375\/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1504548470&amp;sr=1-2&amp;keywords=sanders%2C+the+deep+things+of+God\">The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Triune-God-New-Studies-Dogmatics\/dp\/0310491495\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505177284&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sanders%2C+the+triune+god\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-39481 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Fred-Sanders-The-Triune-God-Cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"272\" height=\"396\"\/><\/a><\/em> (2nd ed.)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Triune-God-New-Studies-Dogmatics\/dp\/0310491495\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505177284&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sanders%2C+the+triune+god\"><em><strong>The Triune God <\/strong><\/em><\/a><strong>(<a href=\"https:\/\/courses.zondervanacademic.com\/triune-god\">course<\/a>)<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Triune-God-New-Studies-Dogmatics\/dp\/0310491495\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505177284&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=sanders%2C+the+triune+god\"><em><strong><\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.fredfredfred.com\/\">Dr. Sanders\u2019s website<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Dr. Sanders\u2019s blog <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptoriumdaily.com\/\"><em>Scriptorum Daily<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><em>What is the Trinity?<\/em> (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/What-Trinity-Thinking-Father-Spirit\/dp\/154677260X\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1499363727&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=what+is+the+trinity\">Amazon<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.what-is-the-trinity.com\/order\/\">other sellers<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/0Hnlw4iMhE8?t=12m25s\"><strong>The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 11 \u2013 Tertullian the unitarian\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-11-tertullian-the-unitarian\/\">podcast 11 \u2013 Tertullian the unitarian<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 31 \u2013 Dr. William Hasker on the \u201cArian\u201d Controversy\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-31-william-hasker-on-the-arian-controversy\/\">podcast 31 \u2013 Dr. William Hasker on the \u201cArian\u201d Controversy<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-30-the-council-of-nicea\/\">podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 42 \u2013 Dr. Stephen R. Holmes on his The Quest for the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-episode-42-dr-stephen-r-holmes-on-his-the-quest-for-the-trinity\/\"><strong>podcast 42 \u2013 Dr. Stephen R. Holmes on his The Quest for the Trinity<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 43 \u2013 Dr. Stephen R. Holmes on God and humankind\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-43-dr-stephen-r-holmes-on-god-and-humankind\/\">podcast 43 \u2013 Dr. Stephen R. Holmes on God and humankind<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/One-God-Lord-Reconsidering-Cornerstone\/dp\/0962897140\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505222218&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=one+god+and+one+lord\"><em><strong>One God &amp; One Lord : Reconsidering the Cornerstone of the Christian Faith<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/#PosMys\">positive mysterianism<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Drake_Stafford\/Drake_Stafford_-_Singles\/Latnem_-_Drake_Stafford\">Latnem<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Drake_Stafford\/\">Drake Stafford<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What, according to Dr. Sanders, is the crisis in contemporary trinitarian systematic theology, when it comes to the Bible?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":39473,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[16,6,58,14,57,7,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-39472","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-books","category-complaints","category-creeds","category-history","category-podcast","category-quotes","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39472","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=39472"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39472\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41033,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39472\/revisions\/41033"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/39473"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=39472"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=39472"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=39472"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}