{"id":39764,"date":"2017-11-20T20:14:34","date_gmt":"2017-11-21T01:14:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=39764"},"modified":"2017-12-03T18:58:07","modified_gmt":"2017-12-03T23:58:07","slug":"podcast-203-white-qureshi-and-zacharias-on-youtube","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-203-white-qureshi-and-zacharias-on-youtube\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 203 &#8211; White, Qureshi, and Zacharias on YouTube"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9347\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-39764-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities203.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities203.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities203.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities203.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=39764-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities203.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities203.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-39766\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dont-get-it.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"404\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dont-get-it.jpg 475w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/dont-get-it-450x344.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 404px) 100vw, 404px\" \/>In the first segment I explain why <strong>Dr. White&#8217;s stated reason for not wanting to debate me<\/strong> is based on misunderstanding. He hastily dismisses my work as &#8220;philosophical&#8221; and so not scripturally grounded. That is a <em>non sequitur<\/em>; a body of work can be both of those things, and mine is. I&#8217;m an evangelical Christian and biblical unitarian, and my theological views are based on scripture. I try hard <em>not<\/em> to base any conclusion on any philosophical speculation, sticking as much as possible to logic and our God-given common sense. In truth, theologians and apologists often rely, sometimes unknowingly, on controversial philosophical assumptions, such as realism about universals, mind-body dualism, divine command theory, or eternalism.<\/p>\n<p>In the second segment I address some of <strong>Nabeel Qureshi&#8217;s speculations<\/strong> on the Trinity, now being re-posted by his widow.<\/p>\n<p>In the third I discuss some <strong>most unwelcome news<\/strong> about apologist Dr. Ravi Zacharias.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-39772\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/study-hard-jw.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"369\" height=\"246\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/study-hard-jw.jpg 849w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/study-hard-jw-450x300.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/study-hard-jw-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 369px) 100vw, 369px\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Debate Prep Links for Dr. White and\/or his Philosophical Surrogate<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/some-clarifications-for-dr-white\/\">Some Clarifications for Dr. White<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.what-is-the-trinity.com\/\"><em>What is the Trinity?<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/\">Trinity<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/how-trinity-theories-conflict-with-the-new-testament\/\">How Trinity theories conflict with the New Testament<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/god-and-his-son-the-logic-of-the-new-testament\/\">God and his Son: the Logic of the New Testament<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/who-should-christians-worship\/\">Who Should Christians Worship?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 191 \u2013 Ware\u2019s Outline of the Testimony of Scripture Against the Trinity\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-191-wares-outline-of-the-testimony-of-scripture-against-the-trinity\/\">podcast 191 \u2013 Ware\u2019s Outline of the Testimony of Scripture Against the Trinity<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 189 \u2013 The unfinished business of the Reformation\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-189-the-unfinished-business-of-the-reformation\/\">podcast 189 \u2013 The unfinished business of the Reformation<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 183 \u2013 Challenge Unmet\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-183-challenge-unmet\/\">podcast 183 \u2013 Challenge Unmet<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 182 \u2013 White\u2019s case for the Trinity \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-182-whites-case-for-the-trinity-part-2\/\">podcast 182 \u2013 White\u2019s case for the Trinity \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 181 \u2013 White\u2019s case for the Trinity \u2013 Part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-181-whites-case-for-the-trinity-part-1\/\">podcast 181 \u2013 White\u2019s case for the Trinity \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 146 \u2013 Jesus as an Exemplar of Faith in the New Testament\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-146-jesus-exemplar-faith-new-testament\/\">podcast 146 \u2013 Jesus as an Exemplar of Faith in the New Testament<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-145-tis-mystery-immortal-dies\/\">podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-124-a-challenge-to-jesus-is-god-apologists\/\">podcast 124 &#8211; A Challenge to Jesus is God Apologists<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=UD6LMdKlKKI\">Debate Trinitarian vs Biblical Unitarian (Brant Bosserman and Sean Finnegan)<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>About bad apologists&#8217; arguments<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-39765\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/craig-thats-your-argument-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"312\" height=\"312\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/craig-thats-your-argument-2.png 312w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/craig-thats-your-argument-2-150x150.png 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 312px) 100vw, 312px\" \/><\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 132 \u2013 10 Apologists\u2019 Mistakes about the Trinity \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-132-10-apologists-mistakes-about-the-trinity-part-2\/\">podcast 132 \u2013 10 Apologists\u2019 Mistakes about the Trinity \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 131 \u2013 10 Apologists\u2019 Mistakes about the Trinity \u2013 Part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-131-10-apologists-mistakes-trinity\/\">podcast 131 \u2013 10 Apologists\u2019 Mistakes about the Trinity \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9B4V0sup3zE\">Shocking: Nabeel Qureshi Exposed by Dale Tuggy Clips<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=kYhaH0ftujI&amp;t=47s\">Trinitarians vs. Unitarians debate<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>Nabeel Querishi and attempts to prove the Trinity from reason, e.g. from God&#8217;s love<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 94 \u2013 review of Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-94-review-of-seeking-allah-finding-jesus-part-2\/\">podcast 94 \u2013 review of Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 93 \u2013 review of Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus \u2013 Part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-93-review-of-seeking-allah-finding-jesus-part-1\/\">podcast 93 \u2013 review of Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCepxnLs6GWAxAyI8m2U9s7A\">NQMinistries<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=aM7g8kpIQgQ\">Nabeel at Summit Ministries: Grasping the Concept of the Trinity<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-58-we-cant-prove-the-trinity-by-reason-alone\/\">podcast 58 \u2013 We can\u2019t prove the Trinity by reason alone<\/a><\/li>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.trinities.org\/dale\/SinglePerfect.pdf\">On the Possibility of a Single Perfect Person<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>Ravi Zacharias<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bbKrkPAZCUw\">Ravi Zacharias Eulogy at Nabeel Qureshi&#8217;s Funeral<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-51-dr-ravi-zacharias-on-the-trinity\/\">podcast 51 \u2013 Dr. Ravi Zacharias on the Trinity<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCVyMiCZ1jOO5HZ0Lx5KOdaw\">The Friendly Banjo Atheist (Steve Baughman)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ncrIBxj1OGI\">Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (TTA Podcast 325)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.raviwatch.com\/news\/story\/sex-scandal\/\">A BREWING RAVI ZACHARIAS SEX SCANDAL<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=w0X0YzHISnY\">&#8220;The Case Against Ravi Zacharias \/ Online Sex Scandal Lawsuit \/ Credential Fraud&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/raviwatch.com\/\">Raviwatch.com<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/ordinary-gentlemen.com\/2017\/11\/13\/the-christian-industrial-complex-shields-its-own\/\">The Christian Industrial Complex Shields Its Own<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Matthew 27:45-46; 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