{"id":39800,"date":"2017-12-04T16:01:34","date_gmt":"2017-12-04T21:01:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=39800"},"modified":"2017-12-04T16:01:34","modified_gmt":"2017-12-04T21:01:34","slug":"podcast-205-conversation-with-a-frustrated-trinitarian-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-205-conversation-with-a-frustrated-trinitarian-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 205 \u2013 Conversation with a frustrated trinitarian \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8330\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-39800-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities205.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities205.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities205.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities205.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=39800-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities205.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities205.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-39801 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/is-it-in-the-book-or-not-450x446.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"446\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/is-it-in-the-book-or-not-450x446.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/is-it-in-the-book-or-not-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/is-it-in-the-book-or-not.jpg 700w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/>This episode is the second part of my <strong>conversation with businessman, blogger, and Southern Baptist Sunday school teacher Corby Amos<\/strong> (<a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-204-conversation-with-a-frustrated-trinitarian-part-1\/\">part 1 here<\/a>). We discuss such topics as:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Have Christians <strong>always<\/strong> been trinitarian in their theology?<\/li>\n<li>How can a Protestant accept the <strong>development of creedal ideas<\/strong> in the first several centuries?<\/li>\n<li>Does the <strong>gospel of Mark hint<\/strong> that Jesus is Yahweh in the flesh in the way it refers to OT statements about Yahweh being fulfilled in the life of Jesus?<\/li>\n<li>If no Trinity theory is clearly taught in scripture, why should a <strong>Protestant<\/strong> be a trinitarian?<\/li>\n<li>If Christ was &#8220;just a man,&#8221; mustn&#8217;t he have been &#8220;<strong>under sin<\/strong>,&#8221; and so be unable to be our savior?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[spp-tweet tweet=&#8221;If the Trinity is not taught in the Bible, should a Protestant accept it anyway?&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Corby Amos<\/strong>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/CorbyAmos\"><strong>on Twitter<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.oddinthetruth.com\/\"><strong>Odd in the Truth<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-204-conversation-with-a-frustrated-trinitarian-part-1\/\">podcast 204 \u2013 Conversation with a frustrated trinitarian \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/larry-hurtado-on-early-christians-worship-of-jesus\/\"><strong>Larry Hurtado on early Christians\u2019 worship of Jesus<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/only-god-can-forgive-sins-false\/\">\u201cOnly God can forgive sins.\u201d False.<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-97-dr-michael-heiser-on-the-unseen-realm\/\">podcast 97 \u2013 Dr. Michael Heiser on The Unseen Realm<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/does-mark-teach-that-jesus-is-god\/\"><strong>Does Mark teach that Jesus is God?<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/mark-jesus-is-gods-son-the-messiah\/\">Mark: Jesus is God\u2019s Son, the Messiah<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Daniel Johansson, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk\/handle\/1842\/6432\">Jesus and God in the Gospel of Mark: unity and distinction<\/a>&#8220;<\/li>\n<li>Daniel Johansson, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/media.ctsfw.edu\/Video\/ViewDetails\/3687\">Jesus and the Forgiveness of Sins: An Indicator of Jesus&#8217; Divine Identity<\/a>&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/worship-of-jesus-worship-of-god-and-the-fulfillment-fallacy\/\">Worship of Jesus, Worship of God, and the Fulfillment Fallacy<strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-39809 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ecce_Homo_di_Collezione_Carige-365x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"365\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ecce_Homo_di_Collezione_Carige-365x450.jpg 365w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ecce_Homo_di_Collezione_Carige-768x946.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ecce_Homo_di_Collezione_Carige.jpg 812w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 365px) 100vw, 365px\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/the-bible-teaches-that-david-is-god\/\">the Bible teaches that David is God<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 16 \u2013 How is Jesus \u201cthe one Lord\u201d?\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-16-how-is-jesus-the-one-lord\/\">podcast 16 \u2013 How is Jesus \u201cthe one Lord\u201d?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=s6wK-lRZP-k\">Clarifying Catholic Christologies<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 188 \u2013 Dr. Paul W. Newman\u2019s Spirit Christology \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-188-dr-paul-w-newmans-spirit-christology-part-2\/\">podcast 188 \u2013 Dr. Paul W. Newman\u2019s Spirit Christology \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 187 \u2013 Dr. Paul W. Newman\u2019s Spirit Christology \u2013 Part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-187-dr-paul-w-newmans-spirit-christology-part-1\/\">podcast 187 \u2013 Dr. Paul W. 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