{"id":40226,"date":"2018-05-14T22:57:04","date_gmt":"2018-05-15T02:57:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=40226"},"modified":"2018-05-14T23:08:06","modified_gmt":"2018-05-15T03:08:06","slug":"podcast-227-who-should-christians-worship","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-227-who-should-christians-worship\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 227 &#8211; Who Should Christians Worship?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1083\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-40226-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities227.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities227.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities227.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities227.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=40226-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities227.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities227.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-40229 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/throne-of-grace-342x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"342\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/throne-of-grace-342x450.jpg 342w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/throne-of-grace.jpg 564w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 342px) 100vw, 342px\" \/><strong>Which of these three arguments is sound?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Argument 1:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Only God should be worshiped.<\/li>\n<li>Jesus should be worshiped.<\/li>\n<li>Therefore, Jesus is God (i.e. Jesus is God himself, &#8220;they&#8221; are numerically one.)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Argument 2:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u00a0Jesus isn&#8217;t God (i.e. they are numerically two).<\/li>\n<li>Only God should be worshiped.<\/li>\n<li>Therefore, Jesus should not be worshiped.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Argument 3:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Jesus isn&#8217;t God (i.e. they are numerically two).<\/li>\n<li>Jesus should be worshiped.<\/li>\n<li>Therefore, it is false that only God should be worshiped.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><strong>In this episode I argue that the New Testament, read with common sense, gives us the answer.<\/strong> Christians who agree with the New Testament should discard two of these three arguments as unsound, on the grounds that each has a false premise.<\/p>\n<p>Do you agree? If not, where does my argument go wrong?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/1drv.ms\/b\/s!AvWPAaQBbkKymuMTbGhGO-8cS0xpxA\">Who Should Christians Worship?<\/a>&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/who-should-christians-worship\/\">(earlier screencast version)<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/larry-hurtado-on-early-christians-worship-of-jesus\/\">Larry Hurtado on early Christians\u2019 worship of Jesus<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-40231 alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Orcagna_Throne_of_Grace-399x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"357\" height=\"402\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Orcagna_Throne_of_Grace-399x450.jpg 399w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Orcagna_Throne_of_Grace-768x865.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Orcagna_Throne_of_Grace-909x1024.jpg 909w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Orcagna_Throne_of_Grace.jpg 1232w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 357px) 100vw, 357px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/hurtado-on-the-worship-of-jesus\/\">Hurtado on the early worship of Jesus<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/francis-david-against-worshiping-jesus\/\">Francis David: Against Worshiping Jesus<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=worship+and+revelation+4-5\">Worship and Revelation 4-5<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/anthony-buzzard-that-jesus-should-be-worshiped-does-not-imply-that-he-is-god-dale\/\">Anthony Buzzard: That Jesus Should be Worshiped Does not Imply that He is God<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-184-where-did-jesus-say-i-am-god-worship-me\/\">podcast 184 \u2013 Where did Jesus say \u201cI am God, worship me\u201d?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/worship-of-jesus-worship-of-god-and-the-fulfillment-fallacy\/\">Worship of Jesus, Worship of God, and the Fulfillment Fallacy<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Andy_G_Cohen\/MUL__DIV_1198\/Andy_G_Cohen_-_MULDIV_-_03_-_Oxygen_Mask\">Oxygen Mask<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Andy_G_Cohen\/\">Andy G. Cohen<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is the New Testament position that Christians should only worship God himself?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":40229,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,47,57,3,43,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40226","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-papers","category-podcast","category-theories","category-unitarianism","category-worship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40226","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40226"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40226\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40237,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40226\/revisions\/40237"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/40229"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40226"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40226"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40226"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}