{"id":40474,"date":"2018-07-09T22:48:53","date_gmt":"2018-07-10T02:48:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=40474"},"modified":"2018-07-09T22:48:53","modified_gmt":"2018-07-10T02:48:53","slug":"podcast-234-dr-james-r-gordon-on-the-extra-calvinisticum-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-234-dr-james-r-gordon-on-the-extra-calvinisticum-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 234 \u2013 Dr. James R. Gordon on the extra Calvinisticum \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_5137\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-40474-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities234.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities234.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities234.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities234.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=40474-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities234.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities234.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><p><a href=\"http:\/\/fortresspress.com\/product\/holy-one-our-midst-essay-flesh-christ\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-40466\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gordon-The-Holy-One-in-Our-Midst-683x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"417\" height=\"625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gordon-The-Holy-One-in-Our-Midst-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gordon-The-Holy-One-in-Our-Midst-300x450.jpg 300w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gordon-The-Holy-One-in-Our-Midst-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gordon-The-Holy-One-in-Our-Midst.jpg 1520w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 417px) 100vw, 417px\" \/><\/a>Dr. James R. Gordon&#8217;s <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/fortresspress.com\/product\/holy-one-our-midst-essay-flesh-christ\"><em>The Holy One in Our Midst<\/em><\/a><\/strong> defends the doctrine which has been called the <em>extra Calvinisticum.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Modern <strong>theologians have objected<\/strong> that the <em>extra<\/em> implies an incomplete Incarnation, &#8220;Nestorian&#8221; heresy, and that only the Word but not the &#8220;human nature&#8221; of Christ should be worshiped.<\/p>\n<p>In this second part of our conversation (<a href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-233-dr-james-r-gordon-on-the-extra-calvinisticum-part-1\/\">Part 1 here<\/a>), <strong>Dr. Gordon rebuts these charges, and argues<\/strong> that this doctrine is in a sense <strong>biblical<\/strong>, and that it is <strong>theologically useful<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Do you agree? Why or why not?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jrgordon.me\/\"><strong>Dr. Gordon\u2019s home page<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/fortresspress.com\/product\/holy-one-our-midst-essay-flesh-christ\"><em>The Holy One in Our Midst: An Essay on the Flesh of Christ<\/em><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wheaton.edu\/academics\/programs\/philosophy\/faculty\/\">Wheaton College Philosophy Department<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 144 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-144-dr-timothy-pawls-defense-conciliar-christology-part-2\/\">podcast 144 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-143-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-conciliar-christology-part-1\/\"><strong>podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 112 \u2013 Dr. Joseph Jedwab on divine omnipresence \u2013 Part 2\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-112-dr-joseph-jedwab-on-divine-omnipresence-part-2\/\">podcast 112 \u2013 Dr. Joseph Jedwab on divine omnipresence \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a title=\"podcast 111 \u2013 Dr. Joseph Jedwab on divine omnipresence \u2013 Part 1\" href=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-111-dr-joseph-jedwab-on-divine-omnipresence-part-1\/\"><strong>podcast 111 \u2013 Dr. Joseph Jedwab on divine omnipresence \u2013 Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/Clarifying Catholic Christologies\">Clarifying Catholic Christologies<\/a><\/li>\n<li>This week\u2019s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Doctor_Turtle\/The_Double-Down_Two-Step\/the_ants_built_a_city_on_his_chest_v3_1305\">The Ants Built A City On His Chest<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Doctor_Turtle\/\">Doctor Turtle<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is the &#8220;extra Calvinisticum&#8221; both biblical and theologically helpful?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":40476,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,62,15,33,56,9,57,43,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40474","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-calvinism","category-christology","category-incarnation","category-interview","category-philosophy","category-podcast","category-unitarianism","category-worship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40474","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40474"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40474\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40486,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40474\/revisions\/40486"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/40476"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40474"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40474"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40474"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}