{"id":40832,"date":"2018-12-17T13:49:09","date_gmt":"2018-12-17T18:49:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=40832"},"modified":"2018-12-17T13:49:19","modified_gmt":"2018-12-17T18:49:19","slug":"podcast-247-kegan-chandler-on-the-term-homoousios","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-247-kegan-chandler-on-the-term-homoousios\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 247 &#8211; Kegan Chandler on the term &#8220;homoousios&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1199\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-40832-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities247.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities247.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities247.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities247.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=40832-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities247.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities247.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Constantine-presiding-over-the-council.jpg\" alt=\"Constantine presiding over the council\" class=\"wp-image-40837\" width=\"393\" height=\"215\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Constantine-presiding-over-the-council.jpg 786w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Constantine-presiding-over-the-council-450x246.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Constantine-presiding-over-the-council-768x419.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 393px) 100vw, 393px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The famous church historian Eusebius tells us that at the famous 325 council at Nicea, it was the emperor <strong>Constantine who suggested using the word <\/strong><em><strong>homoousios<\/strong> <\/em>(variously translated as &#8220;consubstantial,&#8221; &#8220;same esssence,&#8221; &#8220;same substance&#8221;). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is this plausible? And if so, <strong>why <\/strong>would Constantine have done such a thing? What, if anything, in his own religious background would point him towards that term? What was Constantine&#8217;s theology, and how might he have understood it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode Kegan Chandler answers these questions using the latest historical research. He argues that we can go<strong> beyond the now widely agreed point<\/strong> that <em>homoousios <\/em>was employed by this council because it was not then a popular or widely used term, and so it did not have any widely accepted meaning. This enabled the majority of bishops to use the term as a stick with which to drive out Arius and his party, who did not like the term, while various bishops chose to interpret it in various ways, depending on their theological proclivities (e.g. Marcellan neo-monarchianism or Eusebian subordinationism). Whatever the various anti-Arian bishops were thinking, here Chandler ventures an educated guess as to what <em>Constantine<\/em> was thinking&#8230; and it has something to do with Egypt! <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The video version of this episode is strongly recommended: <br \/><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/UEvZjJr4dUU\" allowfullscreen=\"\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\"><\/iframe><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Links for this episode:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kegan-chandler.jpg\" alt=\"Kegan Chandler\" class=\"wp-image-40836\" width=\"324\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kegan-chandler.jpg 432w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/kegan-chandler-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 324px) 100vw, 324px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this talk.\n?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=lpiXXZg8r94\" target=\"_blank\">The live-streamed version of this lecture<\/a>.<\/li><li><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?The God of Jesus in Light of Christian Dogma?his blog Buried Deep?The God of Jesus\n?@Academia.edu?rufinus?nicea eps?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/God-Jesus-Light-Christian-Dogma\/dp\/0967324939\/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1545071545&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=the+god+of+jesus\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>The God of Jesus in Light of Christian Dogma<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?his blog Buried Deep\n?rufinus?nicea eps?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/burieddeepblog.wordpress.com\/author\/keganchandler\/\" target=\"_blank\">his blog Buried Deep<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?his blog Buried Deep?The God of Jesus\n?@Academia.edu?rufinus?nicea eps?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/thegodofjesus.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>The God of Jesus<\/strong><\/a><br \/><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?his blog Buried Deep\n?@Academia.edu?rufinus?nicea eps?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/atlantabiblecollege.academia.edu\/KeganChandler\" target=\"_blank\">@Academia.edu<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?The God of Jesus in Light of Christian Dogma?his blog Buried Deep?The God of Jesus\n?@Academia.edu?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 1?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 2\n?nicea eps?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/rufinuss-corruption-of-origens-on-first-principles-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?The God of Jesus in Light of Christian Dogma?his blog Buried Deep?The God of Jesus\n?@Academia.edu?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 1?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 2\n?nicea eps?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/rufinuss-corruption-of-origens-on-first-principles-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 2<\/a><br \/><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?The God of Jesus in Light of Christian Dogma?his blog Buried Deep?The God of Jesus\n?@Academia.edu?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 1?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 2\n?podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea?Marcellus?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-30-the-council-of-nicea\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea<\/a><\/li><li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-175-marcellus-of-ancyra\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The live-streamed version of this lecture.?The God of Jesus in Light of Christian Dogma?his blog Buried Deep?The God of Jesus\n?@Academia.edu?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 1?Rufinus\u2019s corruption of Origen\u2019s On First Principles \u2013 Part 2\n?podcast 30 \u2013 The Council of Nicea?podcast 175 \u2013 Marcellus of Ancyra?This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy. (opens in a new tab)\">podcast 175 \u2013 Marcellus of Ancyra<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy.\n (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/fluffy\/53739\" target=\"_blank\">Again, Once Again<\/a>&#8221; by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"This week's thinking music is &quot;Again, Once Again&quot; by fluffy.\n (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/people\/fluffy\" target=\"_blank\">fluffy<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why would Constantine suggest this word?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":40836,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[58,4,14,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40832","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-creeds","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-history","category-podcast"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40832","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40832"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40832\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":40842,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40832\/revisions\/40842"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/40836"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40832"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40832"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40832"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}