{"id":41013,"date":"2019-02-04T21:38:46","date_gmt":"2019-02-05T02:38:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41013"},"modified":"2019-05-17T10:07:38","modified_gmt":"2019-05-17T14:07:38","slug":"podcast-251-is-the-trinity-biblical-schumacher-vs-griffin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-251-is-the-trinity-biblical-schumacher-vs-griffin\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 251 &#8211; Is the Trinity Biblical? Schumacher vs. Griffin"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9027\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-41013-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities251.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities251.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities251.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities251.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=41013-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities251.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities251.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This episode is my edit of a 2018 online debate between <strong>trinitarian Andrew Schumacher<\/strong> and <strong>biblical unitarian Andrew Griffin<\/strong>.  Agreeing on the authority of the Bible, here each tries to show that his theology best fits biblical teaching. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schumacher-vs-Griffin.png\" alt=\"Griffin debating Schumacher on Zoom\" class=\"wp-image-41014\" width=\"600\" height=\"191\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Both debaters have undergone significant theological shifts as a result of thinking about biblical theology; Mr. Schumacher went from biblical unitarian to trinitarian, while Mr. Griffin went from Oneness Pentecostal theology to biblical unitarianism. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Who made the stronger argument? Did either debater change your mind? Why or why not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Restitutio 159 Refuting Michael Brown\u2019s Case for the Trinity 1 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2019\/01\/24\/159-refuting-michael-browns-case-for-the-trinity-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">Restitutio 159 Refuting Michael Brown\u2019s Case for the Trinity 1<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Restitutio 160 Refuting Michael Brown\u2019s Case for the Trinity 2 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2019\/01\/26\/160-refuting-michael-browns-case-for-the-trinity-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">Restitutio 160 Refuting Michael Brown\u2019s Case for the Trinity 2<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Restitutio 161 Refuting Michael Brown\u2019s Case for the Trinity 3 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2019\/02\/01\/161-refuting-michael-browns-case-for-the-trinity-3\/\" target=\"_blank\">Restitutio 161 Refuting Michael Brown\u2019s Case for the Trinity 3<\/a> <\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Beginning of Wisdom (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/beginningwisdom.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Beginning of Wisdom<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" Is the Trinity Biblical? Debate Trinity Vs Unitarian | Debaters Only No Moderator Questions (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZXMtpOz06RM\" target=\"_blank\">Is the Trinity Biblical? Debate Trinity Vs Unitarian | Debaters Only No Moderator Questions<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Is the Trinity Biblical? Moderator Questions (the full length video) (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JU8PzV4FPww\" target=\"_blank\">Is the Trinity Biblical? Moderator Questions (the full length video)<\/a><\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"I Dunno (Grapes of Wrath Mix) (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/jlbrock44\/56346\" target=\"_blank\">I Dunno (Grapes of Wrath Mix)<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/people\/jlbrock44\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"spinningmerkaba (opens in a new tab)\">spinningmerkaba<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A 2018 trinitarian vs. biblical unitarian debate.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41014,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,54,57,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41013","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-debates","category-podcast","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41013","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41013"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41013\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41017,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41013\/revisions\/41017"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/41014"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41013"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41013"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41013"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}