{"id":41066,"date":"2019-03-04T23:33:23","date_gmt":"2019-03-05T04:33:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41066"},"modified":"2019-03-04T23:33:27","modified_gmt":"2019-03-05T04:33:27","slug":"podcast-254-aaron-shelenberger-from-trinitarian-to-unitarian-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-254-aaron-shelenberger-from-trinitarian-to-unitarian-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 254 &#8211; Aaron Shelenberger, from trinitarian to unitarian &#8211; Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1555\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-41066-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities254.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities254.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities254.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities254.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=41066-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities254.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities254.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aaron-Shelerberger-IMG_3940.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41072\" width=\"239\" height=\"292\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aaron-Shelerberger-IMG_3940.jpg 513w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Aaron-Shelerberger-IMG_3940-368x450.jpg 368w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 239px) 100vw, 239px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this first part of our wide-ranging conversation we discuss <strong>his journey from being a trinitarian<\/strong> evangelical in the Philippines to being a <strong>biblical unitarian<\/strong> in the U.S. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We discuss his former fear that only &#8220;cults&#8221; don&#8217;t believe in the deity of Jesus and the Trinity, and his interactions with members of the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses and the Iglesia Ni Cristo.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We talk about the recent concept of a cult, and I share my former and current theories as to <strong>why so many &#8220;cults&#8221; are non-trinitarian<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, he describes his transition from trinitarian to biblical unitarian.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Felix_Manalo_2014_stamp_of_the_Philippines.jpg\" alt=\"2014 Felix Manalo \/ INC postage stamp\" class=\"wp-image-41073\" width=\"295\" height=\"206\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Felix_Manalo_2014_stamp_of_the_Philippines.jpg 640w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Felix_Manalo_2014_stamp_of_the_Philippines-450x314.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 295px) 100vw, 295px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Former Trinitarian apologist testimony (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zcqce_-i818&amp;t=1s\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Former Trinitarian apologist testimony<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The Philippines (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Philippines\" target=\"_blank\">The Philippines<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Languages of the Philippines (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/Languages of the Philippines\" target=\"_blank\">Languages of the Philippines<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Biography of Felix Y. Manalo (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/fallaciesoftheiglesianicristo\/biography-of-felix-y-manalo\" target=\"_blank\">Biography of Felix Y. Manalo<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Iglesia Ni Cristo (official English site) (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/iglesianicristo.net\/eng\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Iglesia Ni Cristo (official English site)<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li>Era\u00f1o Manalo, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/FundamentalBeliefsOfTheIglesiaNiCristo_201902\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia Ni Cristo (opens in a new tab)\">Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia Ni Cristo<\/a><\/em><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Rodrigo Duterte: From 'Punisher' to Philippines President (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2016\/04\/21\/asia\/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-profile\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">Rodrigo Duterte: From &#8216;Punisher&#8217; to Philippines President<\/a><\/li><li>John 8:24, John 20:28, John 17:1-3, 1 Timothy 2:5, 1 John 5:7, John 10:30, John 1:1, Philippians 2:5-11.<\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Smokey Eyes (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/JeffSpeed68\/56377\" target=\"_blank\">Smokey Eyes<\/a>&#8221; by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Stefan Kartenberg (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/people\/JeffSpeed68\" target=\"_blank\">Stefan Kartenberg<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A trinitarian apologist changes his mind.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41072,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,80,4,56,57,77,3,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41066","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-faith","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-interview","category-podcast","category-protestant","category-theories","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41066","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41066"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41066\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41081,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41066\/revisions\/41081"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/41072"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41066"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41066"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41066"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}