{"id":41363,"date":"2019-06-04T22:44:05","date_gmt":"2019-06-05T02:44:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41363"},"modified":"2019-06-04T22:45:16","modified_gmt":"2019-06-05T02:45:16","slug":"podcast-263-tuggy-vs-date-debate-jesus-is-human-and-not-divine-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-263-tuggy-vs-date-debate-jesus-is-human-and-not-divine-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 263 &#8211; Tuggy vs. Date debate &#8211; Jesus is human and not divine &#8211; Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6734\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-41363-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities263.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities263.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities263.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities263.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=41363-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities263.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities263.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"952\" height=\"472\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-vs-Date-5-31-19.jpg\" alt=\"Dale Tuggy and Chris Date - 5\/31\/19\" class=\"wp-image-41365\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-vs-Date-5-31-19.jpg 952w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-vs-Date-5-31-19-450x223.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-vs-Date-5-31-19-768x381.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 952px) 100vw, 952px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this live debate of May 31, 2019, I argue that according to the New Testament Jesus is <strong>a unique man (God&#8217;s Messiah), but is <\/strong><em><strong>not <\/strong><\/em><strong>divine<\/strong>. My opponent, apologist and author Chris Date, argues that it teaches Jesus to be human <em>and <\/em>divine. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode you&#8217;ll hear our <strong>opening statements and our rebuttals<\/strong>. The next episode will include our mutual interrogations and our answers to questions from the audience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Which side presented the more convincing case, and why?  <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Many thanks<\/strong> to the organizers, <a href=\"https:\/\/kogmissions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Kingdom of God Ministry and Missions (opens in a new tab)\">Kingdom of God Ministry and Missions<\/a>, to the host church <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Pine Grove Bible Church (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pinegrovebiblechurch.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Pine Grove Bible Church<\/a>, and to the sponsors: <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Restoration Fellowship (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/focusonthekingdom.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Restoration Fellowship<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"21st Century Reformation (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.21stcr.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">21st Century Reformation<\/a>, <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Restitutio (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Restitutio<\/a>, House Light Ministries, Minnesota Missionary Society, and <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Icthus Publications (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ichthuspublications.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Icthus Publications<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Kegan Chandler&#8217;s blog <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Buried Deep (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/burieddeepblog.wordpress.com\/author\/keganchandler\/\" target=\"_blank\">Buried Deep<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"streamed version of the debate (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LSve-Aln16Y&amp;t=668s\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>streamed version of the debate<\/strong><\/a> by Restoration Fellowship<\/li><li> <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-49-2-interpretations-of-philippians-2-part-2\/\">podcast 49 \u2013 2 interpretations of Philippians 2 \u2013 part 2<\/a>  <\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-48-2-interpretations-of-philippians-2-part-1\/\">podcast 48 \u2013 2 interpretations of Philippians 2 \u2013 part 1<\/a>   <\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-11-tertullian-the-unitarian\/\">podcast 11 \u2013 Tertullian the unitarian<\/a>   <\/li><li> <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-259-who-is-the-one-creator-part-2\/\">podcast 259 \u2013 Who is the one Creator? \u2013 Part 2<\/a>  <\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-258-who-is-the-one-creator-part-1\/\">podcast 258 \u2013 Who is the one Creator? \u2013 Part 1<\/a>   <\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Victoria (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/admiralbob77\/59769\" target=\"_blank\">Victoria<\/a>&#8221; by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Admiral Bob (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/people\/admiralbob77\" target=\"_blank\">Admiral Bob<\/a> (featuring Sascha Ende). <\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The debate question is: Jesus is human and not divine.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,54,89,14,57,77,3,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41363","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-debates","category-events","category-history","category-podcast","category-protestant","category-theories","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41363","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41363"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41363\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41368,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41363\/revisions\/41368"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41363"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41363"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41363"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}