{"id":41444,"date":"2019-06-19T20:59:41","date_gmt":"2019-06-20T00:59:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41444"},"modified":"2019-06-19T21:05:51","modified_gmt":"2019-06-20T01:05:51","slug":"dialogue-with-andrew-schumacher-about-my-recent-debate-two-natures-theories-and-the-trinity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/dialogue-with-andrew-schumacher-about-my-recent-debate-two-natures-theories-and-the-trinity\/","title":{"rendered":"Dialogue with Andrew Schumacher about my recent debate, two natures theories, and the Trinity"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this wide-ranging conversation I share my post-debate thoughts on my recent <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"debate with Chris Date (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.21stcr.org\/uncategorized\/debate-dr-dale-tuggy-vs-chris-date\/\" target=\"_blank\">debate with Chris Date<\/a>, and we also discuss various topics relating to the deity of Christ, doctrines of two natures, and the Trinity in relation to the Bible. Among other things he asks me about the charge of <strong>&#8220;assuming unitarianism,&#8221;<\/strong> how I understand <strong>John 17:3<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"BW Live: Trinity Debate: Is Jesus Human and Divine? Interview with Dr. Dale Tuggy\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/cHuQrZ2qEAY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Also, I explain why <strong>Chris Date&#8217;s answers re: omniscience<\/strong> vs. limited knowledge simply reinforce my argument that &#8220;two natures&#8221; theories either eliminate the real man Jesus or they feature at least one too many selves (the man and also the &#8220;divine nature,&#8221; understood as a self).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Thanks to Andrew<\/strong> for a good interview! For more of his work in apologetics, visit<strong> <\/strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"beginningwisdom.org. (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/beginningwisdom.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>beginningwisdom.org<\/strong>.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you missed it, here is his earlier post-debate interview with Chris Date.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Trinity Debate: Is Jesus Human and Divine? Interview with Chris Date\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/gB6cpwXFINs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Post-debate thoughts and more, in dialogue with an ex-biblical-unitarian who is now a trinitarian. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41445,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,54,14,33,56,38,9,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41444","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-debates","category-history","category-incarnation","category-interview","category-monotheism","category-philosophy","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41444","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41444"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41444\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41452,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41444\/revisions\/41452"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/41445"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41444"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41444"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41444"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}