{"id":41474,"date":"2019-07-08T21:51:09","date_gmt":"2019-07-09T01:51:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41474"},"modified":"2019-07-16T09:07:03","modified_gmt":"2019-07-16T13:07:03","slug":"podcast-267-andrew-davis-on-church-history-the-trinity-and-modalism-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-267-andrew-davis-on-church-history-the-trinity-and-modalism-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 267 \u2013 Andrew Davis on church history, the Trinity, and modalism \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8714\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-41474-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities267.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities267.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities267.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities267.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=41474-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities267.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities267.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/whistle-2477714_640.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41478\" width=\"424\" height=\"291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/whistle-2477714_640.jpg 640w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/whistle-2477714_640-450x309.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 424px) 100vw, 424px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode we hear the rest of Andrew Davis&#8217;s journey from trinitarian to &#8220;Arian&#8221; to biblical unitarian <strong>whistleblower<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We discuss why he had dismissed biblical unitarian theology and <strong>why he decided to give it another look<\/strong>, what the New Testament says you must believe to be saved, how trinitarian traditions <strong>discourage thinking about<\/strong> Trinity theories, and how most Protestants assume some degree of Catholic traditions about the Trinity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And at the end of the episode he offers advice to Christians who are starting to work their way into these issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/contramodalism.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\">Andrew Davis&#8217;s blog Contra Modalism<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Is the Trinity Necessary For Salvation? (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/contramodalism.com\/2019\/04\/21\/the-trinity-the-gospel-how-much-knowledge-of-the-trinity-is-required-for-salvation\/\" target=\"_blank\">Is the Trinity Necessary For Salvation?<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"John 10:30 Commentary (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/contramodalism.com\/2018\/12\/16\/john-1030-commentary\/\" target=\"_blank\">John 10:30 Commentary<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Origen on the One God Being the Father (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/contramodalism.com\/2018\/02\/02\/origen-on-the-one-god-being-the-father\/\" target=\"_blank\">Origen on the One God Being the Father<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 52 \u2013 John Locke\u2019s The Reasonableness of Christianity, Part 1 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-52-john-lockes-the-reasonableness-of-christianity-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 52 \u2013 John Locke\u2019s The Reasonableness of Christianity, Part 1<\/a><\/li><li>Tuggy, &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The unfinished business of Trinitarian theorizing (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/commonsenseatheism.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/09\/Tuggy-The-unfinished-business-of-Trinitarian-theorizing.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">The unfinished business of Trinitarian theorizing<\/a>&#8220;<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 235 \u2013 The Case Against Preexistence (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-235-the-case-against-preexistence\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>podcast 235 \u2013 The Case Against Preexistence<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li>John 10:30; 1 Corinthians 3:8; John 14:28; Mark 13:32; <\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 2 \u2013 the \u201cAthanasian Creed\u201d (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-2-the-athanasian-creed\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 2 \u2013 the \u201cAthanasian Creed\u201d<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" The Canons of the Fourth Lateran Council, 1215  (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/sourcebooks.fordham.edu\/basis\/lateran4.asp\" target=\"_blank\"><strong> The Canons of the Fourth Lateran Council, 1215 <\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!  (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-145-tis-mystery-immortal-dies\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies! <\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 262 \u2013 The Trinity before Nicea? (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-262-the-trinity-before-nicea\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 262 \u2013 The Trinity before Nicea?<\/a><\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Improvisation On Friday... 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