{"id":41677,"date":"2019-10-07T20:50:09","date_gmt":"2019-10-08T01:50:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41677"},"modified":"2019-10-07T20:50:13","modified_gmt":"2019-10-08T01:50:13","slug":"podcast-272-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-extended-conciliar-christology-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-272-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-extended-conciliar-christology-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 272 &#8211; Dr. Timothy Pawl&#8217;s In Defense of Extended Conciliar Christology &#8211; Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4353\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-41677-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities272.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities272.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities272.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities272.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=41677-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities272.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities272.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/two-books-by-Tim-Pawl-1024x928.jpg\" alt=\"two books by Tim Pawl\" class=\"wp-image-41682\" width=\"352\" height=\"319\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dr. Timothy Pawl has written <strong>the fullest and most carefully-argued defense<\/strong> of &#8220;two natures&#8221; christology as defined by the ecumenical councils. Now he&#8217;s also written a book-length defense of those core claims <em>plus<\/em> some related claims which are advocated by many in the catholic traditions, including St. Thomas Aquinas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this first part of our conversation we discuss: <strong>what it takes to defend<\/strong> the coherence of traditional &#8220;conciliar&#8221; christology, reactions to his first book, what genre these books are in, <strong>my main objection<\/strong> to his defense, the concept of a <strong>supposit<\/strong>, the significance of the Definition from the Council of Chalcedon in 451, whether or not the communication of idioms applies to him and his wife (who are &#8220;one&#8221;), and whether or not I&#8217;ve ever thrown one of his books across the room. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/st-peter-1784268_640.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41681\" width=\"271\" height=\"288\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/st-peter-1784268_640.jpg 439w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/st-peter-1784268_640-424x450.jpg 424w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 271px) 100vw, 271px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\" (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/timpawl.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Dr. Timothy Pawl<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Interview about Jesus as God at Closer to Truth (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.closertotruth.com\/series\/jesus-god#video-58558\" target=\"_blank\">Interview about Jesus as God at Closer to Truth<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Dr. Faith Pawl (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stthomas.edu\/philosophy\/faculty\/faith-pawl.html\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Faith Pawl<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-143-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-conciliar-christology-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 144 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 2 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-144-dr-timothy-pawls-defense-conciliar-christology-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 144 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 270 \u2013 Origen\u2019s \u201cone God\u201d (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-270-origens-one-god\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 270 \u2013 Origen\u2019s \u201cone God\u201d<\/a><\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The Bipolar Bear (Live in Concert) (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/Papa_Zulu\/32422\" target=\"_blank\">The Bipolar Bear (Live in Concert)<\/a>&#8221; by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Papa_Zulu (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/people\/Papa_Zulu?u=Papa_Zulu\" target=\"_blank\">Papa_Zulu<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What does it take to defend conciliar christology&#8230; and more?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41682,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":70,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,16,15,33,9,57,76],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41677","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-books","category-christology","category-incarnation","category-philosophy","category-podcast","category-roman-catholicism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41677","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41677"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41677\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41690,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41677\/revisions\/41690"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/41682"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41677"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41677"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41677"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}