{"id":41975,"date":"2019-11-18T12:51:54","date_gmt":"2019-11-18T18:51:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=41975"},"modified":"2019-11-18T12:52:33","modified_gmt":"2019-11-18T18:52:33","slug":"podcast-277-was-christ-tempted-in-every-way","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-277-was-christ-tempted-in-every-way\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 277 &#8211; Was Christ tempted in every way?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_1540\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-41975-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities277.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities277.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities277.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities277.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=41975-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities277.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities277.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this nicely done <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"short piece in Christianity Today (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/ct\/2019\/november\/christ-humanity-tempted-every-way.html\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>short piece in <em>Christianity Today<\/em><\/strong><\/a>, analytic theologian <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Dr. Oliver Crisp (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/risweb.st-andrews.ac.uk\/portal\/en\/persons\/oliver-daniel-crisp(523eee7c-13c1-4807-b5c7-3a46bc453fd0).html\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Oliver Crisp<\/a> discusses a &#8220;<strong>paradox<\/strong>&#8221; (i.e. an apparent contradiction) involving Jesus and temptation. This apparent contradiction is <strong>generated by an argument<\/strong> or chain of reasoning like this. (These are my formulations, but I think they roughly capture what he&#8217;s thinking.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Jesus is human.<\/li><li>Jesus is divine.<\/li><li>Anyone who is human is for that reason in principle temptable.<\/li><li>Anyone who is divine is for that reason not in principle temptable.<\/li><li>In principle, Jesus could be tempted. (1,3)<\/li><li>It is false that in principle, Jesus could be tempted. (2,4)<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But this contradiction (the conjunction of 5 and 6) shows that<strong> something is wrong<\/strong> with 1-4: they can&#8217;t all be true, as they imply a falsehood (the conjunction of 5 and 6). At least one of 1-4 must be false, not true. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ary_Scheffer_-_The_Temptation_of_Christ_1854-4-1024x829.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41978\" width=\"359\" height=\"290\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ary_Scheffer_-_The_Temptation_of_Christ_1854-4-1024x829.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ary_Scheffer_-_The_Temptation_of_Christ_1854-4-450x364.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ary_Scheffer_-_The_Temptation_of_Christ_1854-4-768x622.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Ary_Scheffer_-_The_Temptation_of_Christ_1854-4.jpg 1450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 359px) 100vw, 359px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Another way to see the problem<\/strong> is by formulating an inconsistent triad. This is not an argument with premises and conclusion, but rather a list of three claims which we know can&#8217;t all be true. It looks like we must deny at least one. But which?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Jesus is divine.<\/li><li>No one who is divine can be tempted. <\/li><li>Jesus was tempted.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In his insightful discussion Dr. Crisp briefly grapples with this problem, and if you listen closely you&#8217;ll hear which premise of the above argument he denies, and which member of the inconsistent triad he denies. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Do you agree? Why or why not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode I go through his piece and explain why I think that on <strong>a closer look, it reveals some serious scriptural problems <\/strong>for theories on which Jesus has &#8220;a divine nature&#8221; and &#8220;a human nature.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/temptation-of-christ.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41992\" width=\"373\" height=\"293\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/temptation-of-christ.jpg 639w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/temptation-of-christ-450x354.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 373px) 100vw, 373px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"&quot;Was Christ Tempted in Every Way?&quot; (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/ct\/2019\/november\/christ-humanity-tempted-every-way.html\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Was Christ Tempted in Every Way?&#8221;<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/risweb.st-andrews.ac.uk\/portal\/en\/persons\/oliver-daniel-crisp(523eee7c-13c1-4807-b5c7-3a46bc453fd0).html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Dr. Oliver Crisp (opens in a new tab)\">Dr. Oliver Crisp<\/a> @ University of St. Andrews<\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 81 \u2013 Dr. Oliver Crisp on the breadth of Reformed tradition (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-81-dr-oliver-crisp-on-the-breadth-of-reformed-tradition\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 81 \u2013 Dr. Oliver Crisp on the breadth of Reformed tradition<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 82 \u2013 Dr. Oliver Crisp on libertarian Calvinism and universalism (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-82-dr-oliver-crisp-on-libertarian-calvinism-and-universalism\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 82 \u2013 Dr. Oliver Crisp on libertarian Calvinism and universalism<\/a><\/li><li><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Divinity and Humanity (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Divinity-Humanity-Incarnation-Reconsidered-Theology\/dp\/052169535X\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=JZPUAYEU1PC&amp;keywords=crisp+divinity+and+humanity&amp;qid=1574100728&amp;sprefix=crisp+divinity%2Caps%2C168&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\">Divinity and Humanity<\/a><\/em><\/li><li><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"God Incarnate: Explorations in Christology (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/God-Incarnate-Explorations-Oliver-Crisp\/dp\/0567033481\/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?pd_rd_i=0567033481&amp;pd_rd_r=b318ea82-69c9-497d-b5a1-003ef376c2b8&amp;pd_rd_w=lr7Ih&amp;pd_rd_wg=JfHkZ&amp;pf_rd_p=a6d018ad-f20b-46c9-8920-433972c7d9b7&amp;pf_rd_r=F6QG2RZ1ZWCAC7A3G0H7&amp;qid=1574101083&amp;refinements=p_27%3AOliver+D.+Crisp&amp;s=books&amp;text=Oliver+D.+Crisp\" target=\"_blank\">God Incarnate: Explorations in Christology<\/a><\/em><\/li><li><strong><em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"The Word Enfleshed: Exploring the Person and Work of Christ ? (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Word-Enfleshed-Exploring-Person-Christ\/dp\/0801098092\/ref=sr_1_15?qid=1574101985&amp;refinements=p_27%3AOliver+D.+Crisp&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-15&amp;text=Oliver+D.+Crisp\" target=\"_blank\">The Word Enfleshed: Exploring the Person and Work of Christ <\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/li><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies! (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-145-tis-mystery-immortal-dies\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies!<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 146 \u2013 Jesus as an Exemplar of Faith in the New Testament (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-146-jesus-exemplar-faith-new-testament\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 146 \u2013 Jesus as an Exemplar of Faith in the New Testament<\/a><\/li><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Clarifying catholic christologies (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=s6wK-lRZP-k\" target=\"_blank\">Clarifying catholic christologies<\/a><\/strong><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Tuggy vs. Date debate: \u201cIs Jesus human and not divine?\u201d  (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.21stcr.org\/one-god-over-all-videos\/debate-dr-dale-tuggy-vs-chris-date\/\" target=\"_blank\">Tuggy vs. Date debate: \u201cIs Jesus human and not divine?\u201d <\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Hurtado on the early worship of Jesus (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/hurtado-on-the-worship-of-jesus\/\" target=\"_blank\">Hurtado on the early worship of Jesus<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"a reading of Philippians 2:5-11 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/a-reading-of-philippians-25-11\/\" target=\"_blank\">a reading of Philippians 2:5-11<\/a><\/li><li>Hebrews 4:15; James 1:13; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Galatians 3:13; Habakkuk 1:13; Philippians 2:5-11; Revelation 5:9-11.<\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Stage 1 Level 24 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Monplaisir\/Heat_of_the_Summer\/Monplaisir_-_Monplaisir_-_Heat_of_the_Summer_-_04_Stage_1_Level_24\" target=\"_blank\">Stage 1 Level 24<\/a>&#8221; by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Monplaisir (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Monplaisir\" target=\"_blank\">Monplaisir<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jesus is God, and God can&#8217;t be tempted&#8230; yet Jesus was tempted?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":41978,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"default","neve_meta_container":"default","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"off","neve_meta_content_width":70,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"off","neve_meta_disable_footer":"off","neve_meta_disable_title":"off","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,15,80,33,47,9,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41975","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-christology","category-faith","category-incarnation","category-papers","category-philosophy","category-podcast"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41975","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41975"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41975\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41998,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41975\/revisions\/41998"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/41978"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41975"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41975"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41975"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}