{"id":42049,"date":"2019-12-16T18:58:18","date_gmt":"2019-12-17T00:58:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=42049"},"modified":"2019-12-16T18:58:21","modified_gmt":"2019-12-17T00:58:21","slug":"podcast-279-response-to-burgos-on-creation-and-the-one-god-vs-the-one-lord-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-279-response-to-burgos-on-creation-and-the-one-god-vs-the-one-lord-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 279 \u2013 Response to Burgos on Creation and the one God vs. the one Lord \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_173\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-42049-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities279.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities279.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities279.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities279.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=42049-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities279.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities279.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the middle of his discussion about whether Christians can eat food which has been sacrificed to pagan deities, Paul remarks:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8230;yet for us there is <strong>one God, the Fathe<\/strong>r, of whom the all and we for him, and <strong>one Lord, Jesus Christ<\/strong>, by whom the all and we through him. <\/p><cite>1 Corinthians 8:6<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/angry-man-274175_640.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42053\" width=\"448\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/angry-man-274175_640.jpg 640w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/angry-man-274175_640-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dr. Burgos argues that in the passage Paul is obviously attributing the Genesis <strong>creation <\/strong>both to the Father and to the Son. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I explain why he fails to demonstrate that, and argue that there are <strong>two more plausible ways <\/strong>to understand what Paul is saying here. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The keys<\/strong> are realizing that (1) nothing in the context of 1 Corinthians 8 demands that Paul is talking about the Genesis creation in verse 6, (2) &#8220;all things &#8221; (Greek: <em>ta panta<\/em>) typically does <em>not <\/em>mean the sum total of created things, and (3) <em>clear <\/em>Genesis creation texts in the New Testament assume that the one creator is God, a.k.a. the Father.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nice-try-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42055\" width=\"310\" height=\"310\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nice-try-2.jpg 400w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/nice-try-2-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 310px) 100vw, 310px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li> <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.spreaker.com\/user\/thinkingbiblically\/cmne-1-cor-8-6\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>One God and One Lord: A Response to Dale Tuggy &amp; a Consideration of 1 Corinthians 8:6<\/strong><\/a>   <\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-278-response-to-burgos-on-creation-and-the-one-god-vs-the-one-lord-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 278 \u2013 Response to Burgos on Creation and the one God vs. the one Lord \u2013 Part 1<\/a>  <\/li><li><strong><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-259-who-is-the-one-creator-part-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 259 \u2013 Who is the one Creator? \u2013 Part 2<\/a> <\/strong><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-227-who-should-christians-worship\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 227 \u2013 Who Should Christians Worship?<\/a>  <\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-224-biblical-words-for-god-and-for-his-son-part-1-god-and-god-in-the-bible\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 224 \u2013 Biblical Words for God and for his Son Part 1 \u2013 God and \u201cGod\u201d in the Bible<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-225-biblical-words-for-god-and-for-his-son-part-2-old-lord-vs-new-lord\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>podcast 225 \u2013 Biblical Words for God and for his Son Part 2 \u2013 Old \u201cLord\u201d vs. New \u201cLord\u201d<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"J. Dan Gill and Anthony Buzzard on Hebrews 1 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Ypi4KEVQvVs?t=327\" target=\"_blank\">J. Dan Gill and Anthony Buzzard on Hebrews 1<\/a><\/li><li> <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/rdtwot.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Nick Norelli&#8217;s blog<\/a> <\/li><li> <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Theodoret\" target=\"_blank\">Thedoret of Cyrus<\/a> <\/li><li> 1 Corinthians 8:6 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=1+cor+8%3A6&amp;version=YLT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"hyper-literal translation (opens in a new tab)\">hyper-literal translation<\/a>); Exodus 20:1-6; Romans 1:18-22; John 14:9; Isaiah 44:6-8;  Hebrews 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:8-12; Psalm 45:6-7; Ephesians 3:8-9;  John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:15-20;  Matthew 16:13-20; Revelation 5:13; John 8:40; 1 Timothy 2:5; Ephesians 4:5-6; Psalm 110:1; 1 Corinthians 15:27-28; Acts 17:24-25; Romans 8:31-32; Romans 11:33-36; 1 Corinthians 11:11-12; 1 Corinthians 12:4-6; 1 Corinthians 12:19; 2 Corinthians 4:14-15; 2 Corinthians 5:17. <\/li><li> This week&#8217;s thinking music consists of the tracks &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Komiku\/Its_time_for_adventure_\/Komiku_-_Its_time_for_adventure_-_01_Fouler_lhorizon\" target=\"_blank\">Fouler l&#8217;horizon<\/a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Komiku\/Its_time_for_adventure_\/Komiku_-_Its_time_for_adventure_-_02_Le_Grand_Village\" target=\"_blank\">Le Grand Village<\/a>&#8221; by <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Komiku\" target=\"_blank\">Komiku<\/a>. <\/li><li>The <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"wind sound was recorded by dobroide (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freesound.org\/people\/dobroide\/sounds\/109371\/\" target=\"_blank\">wind sound was recorded by dobroide<\/a>, and the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"thunder sounds were by newagesoup (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freesound.org\/people\/newagesoup\/sounds\/344528\/\" target=\"_blank\">thunder sounds were by newagesoup<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In what sense are &#8220;all things&#8221; from God and through Jesus?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":42053,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"default","neve_meta_container":"default","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"off","neve_meta_content_width":70,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"off","neve_meta_disable_footer":"off","neve_meta_disable_title":"off","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,91,14,38,57,77,43,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-42049","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-creation","category-history","category-monotheism","category-podcast","category-protestant","category-unitarianism","category-worship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42049","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=42049"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42049\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42060,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42049\/revisions\/42060"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/42053"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=42049"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=42049"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=42049"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}