{"id":42236,"date":"2020-03-16T21:12:04","date_gmt":"2020-03-17T02:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=42236"},"modified":"2020-03-16T21:12:07","modified_gmt":"2020-03-17T02:12:07","slug":"podcast-289-socinian-approaches-to-john-1-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-289-socinian-approaches-to-john-1-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 289 \u2013 \u201cSocinian\u201d approaches to John 1 \u2013 Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_979\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-42236-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities289.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities289.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities289.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities289.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=42236-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities289.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities289.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lant-Carpenter.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42238\" width=\"356\" height=\"265\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lant-Carpenter.jpg 682w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lant-Carpenter-450x335.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 356px) 100vw, 356px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode you&#8217;ll hear  interpretations of John 1 by unitarian minister and educator <strong>Dr. Lant Carpenter<\/strong> (1780-1840, pictured here) and minister Stephen Nye (1648-1719). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I then explain <strong>some concerns<\/strong> I have about the &#8220;Socinian&#8221; sort of interpretation of the prologue to John, which ends up in a discussion of <strong>how John 1 relates to 1 John 1:1-4<\/strong>. We&#8217;ll hear the translation of this latter passage in the Improved Version of the New Testament which we learned about in the previous episode. Those who favor this sort of interpretation of John 1 usually think that a consideration of 1 John 1:1-4 helps their case. But I explain why I don&#8217;t think it does. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Be sure to listen all the way to the end of this episode to hear about <strong>something new from the <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"UCA (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-281-introducing-the-unitarian-christian-alliance\/\" target=\"_blank\">UCA<\/a>.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Carpenter-title-page.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42239\" width=\"382\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Carpenter-title-page.jpg 724w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Carpenter-title-page-450x425.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Lant Carpenter, Unitarianism the Doctrine of the Gospel, 3rd ed.  (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=8bs-AAAAYAAJ&amp;newbks=1&amp;newbks_redir=0&amp;dq=Lant%20Carpenter%2C%20Unitarianism%20the%20doctrine%20of%20the%20gospel&amp;pg=PR1#v=onepage&amp;q=Lant%20Carpenter,%20Unitarianism%20the%20doctrine%20of%20the%20gospel&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Lant Carpenter, <em>Unitarianism the Doctrine of the Gospel<\/em>, 3rd ed. <\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"podcast 288 \u2013 \u201cSocinian\u201d approaches to John 1 \u2013 Part 1 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-288-socinian-approaches-to-john-1-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\">podcast 288 \u2013 \u201cSocinian\u201d approaches to John 1 \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/li><li> <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-116-george-r-noyess-explanation-of-isaiah-96-and-john-11\/\">podcast 116 \u2013 George R. Noyes\u2019s Explanation of Isaiah 9:6 and John 1:1<\/a> <\/li><li> <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-70-the-one-god-and-his-son-according-to-john\/\">podcast 70 \u2013 The one God and his Son according to John<\/a> <\/strong><\/li><li>Stephen Nye&#8217;s <em>An Accurate Examination of the Principal Texts Usually Alleged for the Divinity of our Saviour<\/em> is in <em><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"A Second Collection of Tracts, Proving the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only True God (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lulu.com\/shop\/stephen-nye\/a-second-collection-of-tracts-proving-the-god-and-father-of-our-lord-jesus-christ-the-only-true-god\/paperback\/product-3291538.html\" target=\"_blank\">A Second Collection of Tracts, Proving the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only True God<\/a><\/em><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Unitarian Christian Alliance YouTube Channel (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCfyDHfpZISrgXnQ1fMt-5Hg\" target=\"_blank\">Unitarian Christian Alliance YouTube Channel<\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Who was the first trinitarian? (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=gcFBHzIoYN4&amp;list=PLr38agbhEadpy6uP5-G8Z8BZy7SmxycOn&amp;index=3\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Who was the first trinitarian?<\/strong><\/a><\/li><li><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Trinity - From Confusion to Clarity (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8VnRZWH0zGA&amp;list=PLr38agbhEadpy6uP5-G8Z8BZy7SmxycOn&amp;index=2\" target=\"_blank\">Trinity &#8211; From Confusion to Clarity<\/a><\/li><li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" aria-label=\"Monkeybars (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Andy_G_Cohen\/Through_The_Lens\/Andy_G_Cohen_-_Monkeybars\" target=\"_blank\">Monkeybars<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Andy_G_Cohen\/\">Andy G. Cohen<\/a>.<\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Does 1 John 1:1-4 show that a &#8220;Socinian&#8221; take on John 1 is correct?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":42238,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"off","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,16,15,14,57,94,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-42236","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-books","category-christology","category-history","category-podcast","category-socinian","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42236","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=42236"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42236\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42242,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42236\/revisions\/42242"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/42238"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=42236"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=42236"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=42236"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}