{"id":42839,"date":"2020-11-09T14:26:14","date_gmt":"2020-11-09T20:26:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=42839"},"modified":"2020-11-09T14:26:22","modified_gmt":"2020-11-09T20:26:22","slug":"podcast-309-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-309-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 309 &#8211; Channing&#8217;s &#8220;Unitarian Christianity&#8221; &#8211; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2680\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-42839-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities309.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities309.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities309.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities309.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=42839-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities309.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities309.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart-890x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42840\" width=\"387\" height=\"445\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart-890x1024.jpg 890w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart-391x450.jpg 391w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart-768x884.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart-1335x1536.jpg 1335w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart-1780x2048.jpg 1780w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reverend_William_Ellery_Channing_by_Gilbert_Charles_Stuart.jpg 1806w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 387px) 100vw, 387px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode, the remainder of Channing&#8217;s famous sermon, in which he <strong>objects to Calvinistic theology <\/strong>that it <em>says <\/em>that God is morally perfect, but then describes him as doing things which obviously conflict with moral perfection. In his view unitarian Christian teaching on God, sin, and salvation actually presents God as wholly good. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He then discusses <strong>theories of atonement<\/strong>; while unitarian Christians of his day were not of one mind on these, most did agree that what is now called &#8220;penal substitution,&#8221; a theory deriving from the Reformation era, with some precedent in the high middle ages, makes no sense. Nor, Channing points out, does Scripture actually say a lot of things that theologians commonly assume as obvious about atonement. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The ultimate goal<\/strong> of our salvation is not merely forgiveness of sin, but rather, Channing argues, the complete transformation of our character into likeness to Jesus and God, so that we&#8217;re suitable for eternal fellowship with them and with each other. Although we can&#8217;t earn our salvation by our good works, we can choose to cooperate with God&#8217;s spirit. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Channing makes <strong>some strong claims about revivalistic-type emotionalism <\/strong>in religion, and says that we should only judge a person&#8217;s spiritual condition by their level of habitual obedience to God. Feelings are certainly relevant and important, but Channing thinks there are many pitfalls here on the road to true spiritual growth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He describes <strong>the sort of character<\/strong> the Gospel is suppose to make it is, characterized by the love of God, the love of Christ, and many virtues that relate to helping those around us. Among these he discusses charity and humility when it comes to <strong>theological disagreements<\/strong>, and he laments the persecuting spirit that mars so much of the history of Christianity. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, he exhorts the new pastor Jared Sparks to preach and teach with all diligence, and to live as an example to his flock, and he reminds us that <strong>the Reformation<\/strong> of Christian traditions by means of Scripture and reason is not at all finished. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image caption-align-center\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jared-Sparks-by-Thomas-Sully-1831-799x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42842\" width=\"379\" height=\"485\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jared-Sparks-by-Thomas-Sully-1831-799x1024.jpeg 799w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jared-Sparks-by-Thomas-Sully-1831-351x450.jpeg 351w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jared-Sparks-by-Thomas-Sully-1831-768x985.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Jared-Sparks-by-Thomas-Sully-1831.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 379px) 100vw, 379px\" \/><figcaption>Jared Sparks (1789-1866)<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-308-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-1\/\">podcast 308 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jared_Sparks\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Jared Sparks (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Jared Sparks<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-217-bignons-defense-of-calvinism-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 217 \u2013 Bignon\u2019s Defense of Calvinism \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-216-bignons-defense-of-calvinism-part-1\/\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>podcast 216 \u2013 Bignon\u2019s Defense of Calvinism \u2013 Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-197-noah-worcester-on-atonement-part-2\/\">podcast 197 \u2013 Noah Worcester on Atonement \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-196-noah-worcester-on-atonement-part-1\/\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>podcast 196 \u2013 Noah Worcester on Atonement \u2013 Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-92-dr-joshua-thurow-on-objections-to-atonement-theories\/\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>podcast 92 \u2013 Dr. Joshua Thurow on objections to atonement theories<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-91-dr-joshua-thurow-on-theories-of-the-atonement\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 91 \u2013 Dr. Joshua Thurow on theories of the atonement<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-81-dr-oliver-crisp-on-the-breadth-of-reformed-tradition\/\">podcast 81 \u2013 Dr. Oliver Crisp on the breadth of Reformed tradition<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-80-foreknowledge-freedom-and-randomness\/\">podcast 80 \u2013 Foreknowledge, Freedom, and Randomness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-79-dr-john-piper-not-everyone-elect\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 79 \u2013 Dr. John Piper on why not everyone is elect<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-37-why-did-jesus-have-to-suffer\/\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>podcast 37 \u2013 Why did Jesus have to suffer?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/ccmixter.org\/files\/admiralbob77\/60298\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Chaulk One Up (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Chaulk One Up<\/a>&#8221; 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