{"id":42880,"date":"2020-11-23T15:02:39","date_gmt":"2020-11-23T21:02:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=42880"},"modified":"2020-12-21T17:27:08","modified_gmt":"2020-12-21T23:27:08","slug":"podcast-310-channings-objections-to-unitarian-christianity-considered","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-310-channings-objections-to-unitarian-christianity-considered\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 310 &#8211; Channing&#8217;s &#8220;Objections to Unitarian Christianity Considered&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7588\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-42880-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities310.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities310.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities310.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities310.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=42880-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities310.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities310.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_2010_67v2Channing_int-Smithsonian-Channing-bust-1841-1024x770.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42883\" width=\"454\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_2010_67v2Channing_int-Smithsonian-Channing-bust-1841-1024x770.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_2010_67v2Channing_int-Smithsonian-Channing-bust-1841-450x338.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_2010_67v2Channing_int-Smithsonian-Channing-bust-1841-768x578.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_2010_67v2Channing_int-Smithsonian-Channing-bust-1841-1536x1155.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_2010_67v2Channing_int-Smithsonian-Channing-bust-1841-2048x1540.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 454px) 100vw, 454px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode you&#8217;ll hear a complete, slightly modernized presentation of William Ellery Channing&#8217;s 1819 article &#8220;Objections to Unitarian Christianity Considered.&#8221; In this piece <strong>he engages with &#8220;popular&#8221; objections<\/strong>, the kind current not so much with scholars as with ordinary people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The objections he answers are that unitarian Christianity:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><strong>Denies &#8220;the Divinity of Christ.&#8221;<\/strong> <\/li><li>Takes away the only hope of sinners, an infinite <strong>atonement<\/strong>.<\/li><li>Teaches salvation by works, not by grace.<\/li><li><strong>Preaches &#8220;morality.&#8221;<\/strong><\/li><li>Produces less zeal, seriousness, and piety than trinitarian forms of Christianity.<\/li><li>Is <strong>&#8220;a half-way house to unbelief,&#8221;<\/strong> i.e. to the complete rejection of divine revelation.<\/li><li>Gives a person no consolation in the face of sickness and death.<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Does Channing effectively answer these? What are the common pew-level objections to today&#8217;s unitarian Christianity?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_by_Herbert_Adams_-_Boston_Public_Garden_-_Boston_MA_-_DSC08125.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42888\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_by_Herbert_Adams_-_Boston_Public_Garden_-_Boston_MA_-_DSC08125.jpg 400w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_by_Herbert_Adams_-_Boston_Public_Garden_-_Boston_MA_-_DSC08125-300x450.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">John 3:34; John 14:9; 2 Corinthians 5:19; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15; John 3:16; John 10:30; John 6:3; John 8:42; John 16:27; John 20:17; John 14:28; John 5:30; 1 John 5:7; 1 Timothy 3:16; Luke 1:69; Acts 28:28; 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Isaiah 64:6; 1 Peter 3:4; John 7:46; Matthew 6:5-6; Matthew 6:16-17; Romans 6:11; Luke 23:36.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-309-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-2\/\">podcast 309 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-308-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-1\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 308 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-124-a-challenge-to-jesus-is-god-apologists\/\">podcast 124 \u2013 a challenge to \u201cJesus is God\u201d apologists<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/John-Locke-Writings-Religion\/dp\/0199243425\/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=locke%2C+writings+on+religion&amp;qid=1606164160&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"John Locke: Writings on Religion (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">John Locke: Writings on Religion<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-55-john-lockes-second-vindication-of-his-reasonableness-of-christianity\/\">podcast 55 \u2013 John Locke\u2019s Second Vindication of his Reasonableness of Christianity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-54-john-edwards-vs-john-lockes-reasonableness-of-christianity\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 54 \u2013 John Edwards vs. John Locke\u2019s Reasonableness of Christianity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-53-john-lockes-the-reasonableness-of-christianity-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 53 \u2013 John Locke\u2019s The Reasonableness of Christianity, Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-52-john-lockes-the-reasonableness-of-christianity-part-1\/\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>podcast 52 \u2013 John Locke\u2019s The Reasonableness of Christianity, Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"The Newton Project (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">The Newton Project<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/clarke\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Samuel Clarke (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Samuel Clarke<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Nathaniel Lardner (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/historicalapologetics.org\/lardner-nathaniel\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Nathaniel Lardner<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.josephpriestley.com\/priestley_complete_works.htm\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Joseph Priestley: list of his works (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Joseph Priestley: list of his works<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/ccmixter.org\/files\/admiralbob77\/25317\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Slash and Burn (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Slash and Burn<\/a>&#8221; 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