{"id":42927,"date":"2020-12-07T16:18:18","date_gmt":"2020-12-07T22:18:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=42927"},"modified":"2020-12-07T16:18:25","modified_gmt":"2020-12-07T22:18:25","slug":"podcast-311-channings-the-evidences-of-revealed-religion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-311-channings-the-evidences-of-revealed-religion\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 311 &#8211; Channing&#8217;s &#8220;The Evidences of Revealed Religion&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6809\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-42927-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities311.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities311.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities311.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities311.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=42927-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities311.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities311.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_80_127-Channing-encraving-1829-CR-833x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42933\" width=\"548\" height=\"673\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_80_127-Channing-encraving-1829-CR-833x1024.jpg 833w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_80_127-Channing-encraving-1829-CR-366x450.jpg 366w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_80_127-Channing-encraving-1829-CR-768x945.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/NPG-NPG_80_127-Channing-encraving-1829-CR.jpg 1161w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 548px) 100vw, 548px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode you&#8217;ll hear my modernized version of<a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=channing\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\" William Ellery Channing (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"> William Ellery Channing<\/a>&#8216;s 1821 lecture <strong>&#8220;The Evidences of Revealed Religion.&#8221;<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s about the rationality of believing in divine revelation on the basis of miracles, so it&#8217;s about what can be <em>known <\/em>about God by divine revelation (&#8220;revealed religion&#8221;) as opposed to what can be known on the basis of ordinary experience and reason alone (&#8220;natural religion&#8221;). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s <strong>a worthy little piece of Christian apologetics on the topic of miracles<\/strong>, reports of which have always been central to Christian claims, ever since Jesus himself said, <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, <strong>believe the works, so that you may know<\/strong> and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.\u201d <\/p><cite>John 10:37-38 (NRSV)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">and ever since the apostles preached about this remarkable<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8230;<strong>man attested to you by God with deeds of power, wonders, and signs that God did through him among you, as you yourselves know<\/strong>.<\/p><cite>Acts 2:22 (NRSV)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As Channing says, most people everywhere have believed in the possibility and even the reality of miracles, and the idea that it can never be rational to believe a miracle-report is both recent and dubious. But of course, <strong>not every miracle-claim is worthy of belief!<\/strong> <em>Why <\/em>then, should we think that the miracles reported in the New Testament should be believed? Channing has some deep insights on this issue. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/UCA-podcast-1024x259.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42929\" width=\"587\" height=\"149\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/UCA-podcast-1024x259.png 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/UCA-podcast-450x114.png 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/UCA-podcast-768x194.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/UCA-podcast.png 1152w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 587px) 100vw, 587px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And at the start of this episode I introduce you to <strong>the <em>very exciting<\/em> new <a aria-label=\"UCA podcast (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/podcast.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"ek-link\">UCA podcast<\/a>!<\/strong> You&#8217;ll hear a fascinating snippet from an early episode as well as some of the vision of its extraordinary host and producer Mark Cain. Be sure to subscribe at the line below!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Unitarian Christian Alliance (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Unitarian Christian Alliance<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2020\/12\/03\/368-introducing-the-uca-podcast-mark-cain\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Restitutio podcast 368 Introducing the UCA Podcast (Mark Cain) (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Restitutio podcast 368 Introducing the UCA Podcast (Mark Cain)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Unitarian Christian Alliance Podcast (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/podcast.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Unitarian Christian Alliance Podcast<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-281-introducing-the-unitarian-christian-alliance\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"trinities podcast 281 \u2013 Introducing the Unitarian Christian Alliance (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">trinities podcast 281 \u2013 Introducing the Unitarian Christian Alliance<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/worksofwilliamec00chan_0\/page\/220\/mode\/2up?q=220\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Channing, &quot;The Evidences of Revealed Religion&quot; (pp. 220ff) (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Channing, &#8220;The Evidences of Revealed Religion&#8221; (pp. 220ff)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">John 3:2<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">David Hume&#8217;s Chapter 10 &#8220;Of Miracles&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www3.nd.edu\/~afreddos\/courses\/43811\/hume-on-miracles.htm\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"(original text (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">(original text<\/a>, <a aria-label=\"modernized text (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/pdfs\/hume1748_3.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"ek-link\">modernized text<\/a>, <a aria-label=\"audio book (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.earlymoderntexts.com\/assets\/audio\/Hume_Section_10_Master.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"ek-link\">audio book<\/a>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Dr. Timothy McGrew&#8217;s article &#8220;<a aria-label=\"Miracles (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\" href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/miracles\/\" target=\"_blank\">Miracles<\/a>&#8220;<\/strong> in <em>The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Dr. Timothy McGrews&#8217;s <a aria-label=\"historicalapologetics.org (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/historicalapologetics.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">historicalapologetics.org<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"George Campbell (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/historicalapologetics.org\/campbell-george\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">George Campbell<\/a> and his <em><a aria-label=\"A Dissertation on Miracles (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/dissertationmira00campuoft\/page\/n5\/mode\/2up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">A Dissertation on Miracles<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"William Paley (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/historicalapologetics.org\/paley-william\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">William Paley<\/a> and his <em><a aria-label=\"A View of the Evidences of Christianity (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/viewofevidenceso00pale\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">A View of the Evidences of Christianity<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sir Issac Newton&#8217;s <em><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Philosophi%C3%A6_Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica\" class=\"ek-link\">Philosophi\u00e6 Naturalis Principia Mathematica<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a aria-label=\"I dunno (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link ek-link\" href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/grapes\/16626\" target=\"_blank\">I dunno<\/a>&#8221; 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