{"id":42958,"date":"2020-12-21T18:19:16","date_gmt":"2020-12-22T00:19:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=42958"},"modified":"2020-12-21T18:19:24","modified_gmt":"2020-12-22T00:19:24","slug":"podcast-313-weighing-channing-unitarianism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-313-weighing-channing-unitarianism\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 313 &#8211; Weighing Channing Unitarianism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_9682\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-42958-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities313.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities313.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities313.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities313.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=42958-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities313.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities313.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Channing-portrain-1838-the-only-one-he-liked-sans-frame.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42960\" width=\"432\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Channing-portrain-1838-the-only-one-he-liked-sans-frame.jpg 504w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Channing-portrain-1838-the-only-one-he-liked-sans-frame-392x450.jpg 392w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 432px) 100vw, 432px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We&#8217;ve heard quite a bit from the famous, learned, and eloquent early American unitarian preacher and author <strong>William Ellery Channing<\/strong> (1780-1842):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-308-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-1\/\">podcast 308 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-309-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 309 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-310-channings-objections-to-unitarian-christianity-considered\/\">podcast 310 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cObjections to Unitarian Christianity Considered\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-311-channings-the-evidences-of-revealed-religion\/\">podcast 311 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cThe Evidences of Revealed Religion\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-312-channings-likeness-to-god\/\">podcast 312 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cLikeness to God<\/a>&#8220;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode I offer<strong> some thoughts, positive and negative<\/strong>, about Channing&#8217;s understanding of Christianity, including a few topics which the above lecture-sermons did not really touch on. Topics include: the breadth of his definition of &#8220;unitarian Christian&#8221; views, his arguments that the Bible doesn&#8217;t teach any Trinity or Incarnation theory, what sort of Trinity theories he actually objects to, his assumptions of divine immutability and impassibility, his anti-Calvinism, his defense of belief in early Christian miracles, his opposition to &#8220;man-made creeds,&#8221; his opposition to &#8220;emotional&#8221; religion, and his individualism. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finally, we hear an eyewitness testimony to <strong>his conduct and character <\/strong>towards the end of his life. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exodus 7:10-12; Isaiah 11:6-9; Luke 24:32; Philippians 2:12<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Unitarian Christian Alliance (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Unitarian Christian Alliance<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-235-the-case-against-preexistence\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"podcast 235 \u2013 The Case Against Preexistence (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 235 \u2013 The Case Against Preexistence<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/a-reading-of-philippians-25-11\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"a reading of Philippians 2:5-11 (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">a reading of Philippians 2:5-11<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-298-andrews-norton-on-john-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"podcast 298 \u2013 Andrews Norton on John 1 (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 298 \u2013 Andrews Norton on John 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-25-pastor-sean-finnegan-about-the-holy-spirit-part-1\/\">podcast 25 \u2013 Pastor Sean Finnegan on \u201cthe Holy Spirit\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-26-pastor-sean-finnegan-on-the-holy-spirit-part-2\/\">podcast 26 \u2013 Pastor Sean Finnegan on \u201cthe Holy Spirit\u201d \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_and_Channing_Memorial_Church_Touro_Park_Newport_Rhode_Island-1024x792.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-42966\" width=\"462\" height=\"356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_and_Channing_Memorial_Church_Touro_Park_Newport_Rhode_Island-1024x792.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_and_Channing_Memorial_Church_Touro_Park_Newport_Rhode_Island-450x348.jpg 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_and_Channing_Memorial_Church_Touro_Park_Newport_Rhode_Island-768x594.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_and_Channing_Memorial_Church_Touro_Park_Newport_Rhode_Island-1536x1187.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/William_Ellery_Channing_statue_and_Channing_Memorial_Church_Touro_Park_Newport_Rhode_Island-2048x1583.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 462px) 100vw, 462px\" \/><figcaption>William Ellery Channing statue, Touro Park, Newport, Rhode Island<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-189-the-unfinished-business-of-the-reformation\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 189 \u2013 The unfinished business of the Reformation<\/a> (<a aria-label=\"book chapter (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44018047\/The_Unfinished_Business_of_the_Reformation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">book chapter<\/a>)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-191-wares-outline-of-the-testimony-of-scripture-against-the-trinity\/\">podcast 191 \u2013 Ware\u2019s Outline of the Testimony of Scripture Against the Trinity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-37-why-did-jesus-have-to-suffer\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 37 \u2013 Why did Jesus have to suffer?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-196-noah-worcester-on-atonement-part-1\/\">podcast 196 \u2013 Noah Worcester on Atonement \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-197-noah-worcester-on-atonement-part-2\/\">podcast 197 \u2013 Noah Worcester on Atonement \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/#ThrSel\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"three-self Trinity theories (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">three-self Trinity theories<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/trinity\/#OneSel\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"one-self Trinity theories  (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">one-self Trinity theories <\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/no-trinity-verse-a-good-thing-dale\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"No \u201cTrinity Verse\u201d \u2013 A Good Thing? (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>No \u201cTrinity Verse\u201d \u2013 A Good Thing?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-260-how-to-argue-that-the-bible-is-trinitarian\/\">podcast 260 \u2013 How to Argue that the Bible is Trinitarian<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-143-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-conciliar-christology-part-1\/\">podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-144-dr-timothy-pawls-defense-conciliar-christology-part-2\/\">podcast 144 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/s6wK-lRZP-k\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Clarifying Catholic Christologies (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Clarifying Catholic Christologies<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a aria-label=\"Is Jesus Human and Not Divine? (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jesus-Divine-Essential-Christian-Debates\/dp\/1946971804\/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-drs1_0?crid=WKH9Q1NRK9BC&amp;cv_ct_cx=is+jesus+human+and+not+divine&amp;dchild=1&amp;keywords=is+jesus+human+and+not+divine&amp;pd_rd_i=1946971804&amp;pd_rd_r=aad45bb1-d912-480a-8fc4-c8f3e2a38614&amp;pd_rd_w=nEuqo&amp;pd_rd_wg=2gS3s&amp;pf_rd_p=055f7364-94db-4b93-80d6-346300592c66&amp;pf_rd_r=JAJRAT7DFE5V9BZ618T2&amp;psc=1&amp;qid=1595351280&amp;sprefix=is+jesus+human+and+not%2Caps%2C267&amp;sr=1-1-f7123c3d-6c2e-4dbe-9d7a-6185fb77bc58\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Is Jesus Human and Not Divine?<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/lifeofwilliamell00chanrich\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"The Life of William Ellery Channing, D.D. (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>The Life of William Ellery Channing, D.D.<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/0MJ8xlrMOvA\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Is there a God? Tuggy - Kershnar debate, Fredonia, April 2016 (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Is there a God? Tuggy &#8211; Kershnar debate, Fredonia, April 2016<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Xgd7QNiX-ts\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Why I'm Not A Buddhist - Dr. Dale Tuggy (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Why I&#8217;m Not A Buddhist &#8211; Dr. Dale Tuggy<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.risenjesus.com\/review-of-bart-ehrmans-book-forged-writing-in-the-name-of-god\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Licona, Review of Bart Ehrman's book Forged (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Licona, Review of Bart Ehrman&#8217;s book Forged<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a aria-label=\"Simplify (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Little_Glass_Men\/Simplify\/Simplify\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Simplify<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Little_Glass_Men\">Little Glass Men<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Which parts of Channing&#8217;s thought do and don&#8217;t hold up today?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":42961,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,61,21,46,62,15,58,75,14,82,20,57,77,43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-42958","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-atonement","category-bible","category-buddhism","category-calvinism","category-christology","category-creeds","category-divine-attributes","category-history","category-miracles","category-mystery","category-podcast","category-protestant","category-unitarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42958","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=42958"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42958\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42969,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42958\/revisions\/42969"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/42961"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=42958"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=42958"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=42958"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}