{"id":43297,"date":"2021-06-09T22:24:27","date_gmt":"2021-06-10T03:24:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=43297"},"modified":"2021-06-09T22:24:37","modified_gmt":"2021-06-10T03:24:37","slug":"podcast-329-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-divine-identity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-329-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-divine-identity\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 329 &#8211; Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on divine identity"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8763\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-43297-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities329.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities329.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities329.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities329.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=43297-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities329.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities329.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Josh-Sijuwade.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43309\" width=\"260\" height=\"361\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Josh-Sijuwade.png 328w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Dr-Josh-Sijuwade-324x450.png 324w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 260px) 100vw, 260px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dr. Richard Bauckham has urged, especially in his book <em><a aria-label=\"Jesus and the God of Israel (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jesus-God-Israel-Testaments-Christology\/dp\/0802845592\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Jesus and the God of Israel<\/a><\/em>, that everywhere in the New Testament Jesus is taught to &#8220;have <strong>the divine identity<\/strong>&#8221; or to &#8220;belong to the identity of God&#8221; or to be &#8220;included in the divine identity.&#8221; Such language has widely proliferated in recent evangelical scholarship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In a <a aria-label=\"2013 article (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44018046\/On_Bauckhams_Bargain\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">2013 article<\/a> to which Dr. Bauckham has never responded, I pointed out that <strong>the meaning of this new language is unclear<\/strong>, and that various interpretations run into serious problems. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But of course those were not the only possible interpretations. In his 2020 article <strong>&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/archive\/SIJEDI\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Elucidating Divine Identity (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Elucidating Divine Identity<\/a>&#8221; Dr. Joshua Sijuwade<\/strong> suggests that a certain conception of <strong>essence <\/strong>can clarify in what sense the biblical Jesus &#8220;belongs to the identity of&#8221; God. In this episode we discuss his ideas in this article. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In your view, do Dr. Sijuwade&#8217;s suggestions clarify Dr. Backham&#8217;s claim that Jesus &#8220;belongs to the identity&#8221; of God? Why or why not? <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Sijuwade, &quot;Elucidating Divine Identity,&quot; Heythrop Journal, 2020 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/philarchive.org\/archive\/SIJEDI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Sijuwade, &#8220;Elucidating Divine Identity,&#8221; <em>Heythrop Journal<\/em>, 2020<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lst.academia.edu\/JoshuaSijuwade\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Dr. Sijuwade's Academa.edu page (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Dr. Sijuwade&#8217;s Academa.edu page<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a aria-label=\"podcast 13 \u2013 On Bauckham's Bargain (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-13-on-bauckhams-bargain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 13 \u2013 On Bauckham&#8217;s Bargain<\/a> (<a aria-label=\"published paper (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/44018046\/On_Bauckhams_Bargain\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">published paper<\/a>)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-214-has-bauckham-clarified-his-divine-identity-theory-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 214 \u2013 Has Bauckham clarified his \u201cdivine identity\u201d theory? \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-213-has-bauckham-clarified-his-divine-identity-theory-part-1\/\">podcast 213 \u2013 Has Bauckham clarified his \u201cdivine identity\u201d theory? \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Superman-Clark-Kent-680x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43305\" width=\"386\" height=\"581\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Superman-Clark-Kent-680x1024.jpg 680w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Superman-Clark-Kent-299x450.jpg 299w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Superman-Clark-Kent-768x1156.jpg 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Superman-Clark-Kent.jpg 900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 386px) 100vw, 386px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-124-a-challenge-to-jesus-is-god-apologists\/\">podcast 124 \u2013 a challenge to \u201cJesus is God\u201d apologists<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a aria-label=\"Is Jesus Human and Not Divine? (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Jesus-Divine-Essential-Christian-Debates\/dp\/1946971804\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Is Jesus Human and Not Divine?<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/identity\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Identity (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Identity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"on &quot;Leibniz's Law&quot; (aka the indiscernibility of identicals) (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/simplifying-the-indiscernibility-of-identicals\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">on &#8220;Leibniz&#8217;s Law&#8221; (aka the indiscernibility of identicals)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/mereology\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"mereology (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">mereology<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/identity\/#8\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"composition as identity (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">composition as identity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Kit Fine (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/as.nyu.edu\/content\/nyu-as\/as\/faculty\/kit-fine.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Kit Fine<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fine, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/as.nyu.edu\/content\/dam\/nyu-as\/philosophy\/documents\/faculty-documents\/fine\/accessible_fine\/Fine_Essence-Modality.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Essence and Modality (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Essence and Modality<\/a>&#8220;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Essential vs. Accidental Properties (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/essential-accidental\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Essential vs. Accidental Properties<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"E.J. Lowe (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/iep.utm.edu\/lowe-ej\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">E.J. Lowe<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?s=Worship+and+Revelation+4-5\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Worship and Revelation 4-5 (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Worship and Revelation 4-5<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-227-who-should-christians-worship\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"podcast 227 \u2013 Who Should Christians Worship? (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 227 \u2013 Who Should Christians Worship?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-259-who-is-the-one-creator-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 259 \u2013 Who is the one Creator? \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-259-who-is-the-one-creator-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>podcast 258 \u2013 Who is the one Creator? \u2013 Part 1<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-227-who-should-christians-worship\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 227 \u2013 Who Should Christians Worship?<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a aria-label=\"Cardboard Engineering (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/Sky_Ship\/Jesse_Spillane_-_Sky_Ship_-_04_Cardboard_Engineering\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Cardboard Engineering<\/a>&#8221; by <a aria-label=\"Jesse Spillane (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Jesse Spillane<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is the idea of essence the key to understanding Bauckham&#8217;s christology of divine identity?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":43309,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,15,6,91,14,38,47,9,57,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-43297","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-christology","category-complaints","category-creation","category-history","category-monotheism","category-papers","category-philosophy","category-podcast","category-worship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43297","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43297"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43297\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":43314,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43297\/revisions\/43314"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/43309"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43297"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43297"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43297"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}