{"id":43325,"date":"2021-06-21T21:08:19","date_gmt":"2021-06-22T02:08:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=43325"},"modified":"2021-06-21T21:08:27","modified_gmt":"2021-06-22T02:08:27","slug":"podcast-331-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-the-metaphysics-of-monarchical-trinitarianism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-331-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-the-metaphysics-of-monarchical-trinitarianism\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 331 \u2013 Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the metaphysics of monarchical trinitarianism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2841\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-43325-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities331.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities331.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities331.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities331.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=43325-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities331.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities331.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sijuwades-monarchical-model.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43328\" width=\"324\" height=\"264\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sijuwades-monarchical-model.png 472w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/sijuwades-monarchical-model-450x367.png 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 324px) 100vw, 324px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At one point, influenced by the great Christian philosopher <a aria-label=\"Richard Swinburne (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-57-richard-swinburne-on-the-trinity\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Richard Swinburne<\/a>, Dr. Joshua Sijuwade held to a <strong>&#8220;social&#8221; Trinty<\/strong>. But now, following <a aria-label=\"Beau Branson (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-239-dr-beau-branson-on-the-monarchy-of-the-father-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Beau Branson<\/a>, he holds to a <strong>&#8220;monarchical trinitarian&#8221; <\/strong>view on which the one God just is the Father, and also there is a divine Son and a divine Spirit. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But he&#8217;s continued to think about the issues, now influenced by some work by<a aria-label=\" Timothy Pawl (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-143-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-conciliar-christology-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"> Timothy Pawl<\/a> and by metaphysician <strong>E.J. Lowe<\/strong>. In some ways, he&#8217;s trying to bring together a Swinburnean view of &#8220;the Trinity&#8221; with a Bransonian one, as we saw in <a aria-label=\"episode 330 (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-330-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-the-monarchy-of-the-father\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">episode 330<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode Dr. Joshua Sijuwade and I discuss the ideas in his <strong>recent article <a aria-label=\"&quot;Monarchical Trinitarianism: A Metaphysical Proposal.&quot; (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/ojs.uclouvain.be\/index.php\/theologica\/article\/view\/54483\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">&#8220;Monarchical Trinitarianism: A Metaphysical Proposal.&#8221;<\/a> <\/strong>In this paper Dr. Sijuwade tries to develop the monarchical model using recent metaphysician E.J. Lowe&#8217;s 4-category ontology, so as to answer what he calls<strong> the multiple-natures problem<\/strong> and the multiple-modes problem. Specifically, he applies Lowe&#8217;s way of thinking about objects and their properties, as shown in this chart.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lowes-onotological-square.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-43329\" width=\"414\" height=\"212\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lowes-onotological-square.png 651w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Lowes-onotological-square-450x230.png 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 414px) 100vw, 414px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I press Dr. Sijuwade on what I think is a <strong>more fundamental problem <\/strong>for &#8220;monarchical trinitarianism&#8221; which is that it appears to assert three gods, as it features three things, the Persons, each of which has all that it takes to be a god. In his replies he explains why he is not concerned about that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the very end of this episode I make a couple of <strong>important announcements!<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-330-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-the-monarchy-of-the-father\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 330 \u2013 Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on the monarchy of the Father<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-330-dr-joshua-sijuwade-on-the-monarchy-of-the-father\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 329 \u2013 Dr. Joshua Sijuwade on divine identity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"Tim Pawl, &quot;Conciliar Trinitarianism, Divine Identity Claims, and Subordination&quot; (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/ojs.uclouvain.be\/index.php\/theologica\/article\/view\/23593\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Tim Pawl, &#8220;Conciliar Trinitarianism, Divine Identity Claims, and Subordination&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/plato.stanford.edu\/entries\/dependence-ontological\/#IdenDepe\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"constitutive essence vs. consequential essence (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">constitutive essence vs. consequential essence<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is <a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/theme-for-another-time\/air\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"&quot;Air&quot; (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">&#8220;Air&#8221;<\/a> by <a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Jesse Spillane (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Jesse Spillane<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is E.J. 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