{"id":44058,"date":"2022-12-20T19:49:23","date_gmt":"2022-12-21T01:49:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=44058"},"modified":"2022-12-20T19:49:28","modified_gmt":"2022-12-21T01:49:28","slug":"podcast-358-baptist-justice-samuel-eddy-on-scripture-church-discipline-and-the-trinity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-358-baptist-justice-samuel-eddy-on-scripture-church-discipline-and-the-trinity\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 358 &#8211; Baptist Justice: Samuel Eddy on Scripture, Church Discipline, and the Trinity"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2642\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-44058-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities358.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities358.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities358.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities358.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=44058-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities358.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities358.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Portrait_of_Samuel_Eddy.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44063\" width=\"514\" height=\"410\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Portrait_of_Samuel_Eddy.jpg 649w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Portrait_of_Samuel_Eddy-450x359.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 514px) 100vw, 514px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Samuel Eddy (1768-1839)<\/strong> was at the height of his career Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the state of Rhode Island. He was also a prominent member of the <strong>First Baptist Church in Providence<\/strong>. Like others, he&#8217;d just assumed that the doctrine of the Trinity is both true and taught in the Bible. Yes, he&#8217;d heard talk of unitarians, but those aren&#8217;t Christians, right? So he never bothered to hear their side of the argument. He tells us that what finally caused him to investigate these matters were faulty arguments he encountered on the trinitarian side for the underived power and full deity of Christ. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Not having read any unitarian literature, he decided, like a good Protestant, that <strong>the answer to these debates must be in Scripture<\/strong>, so he went through the whole New Testament and wrote out every text that was relevant to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. He tells us that <strong>the &#8220;result was a full conviction<\/strong> that the Father was the only true God, and that Christ was not the Father, that is, that being whom Christ asserts to be the only true God.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode you&#8217;ll hear<strong> a statement Eddy presented<\/strong> to the leadership committee of his church when they demanded an account of his theology, which later became a widely-read and often-reprinted tract called: <em><strong>Reasons Offered <\/strong>by Samuel Eddy, LL. D., Late Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Rhode Island, for His Opinions to the First Baptist Church in Providence, from which He was Compelled to Withdraw for Heterodoxy.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On both theology and procedure, he confronts his Baptist brethren for <strong>choosing post-biblical traditions over clear biblical teachings<\/strong>. Eddy makes what are at first glance some radical claims about what the New Testament teaches. Are you persuaded? Why or why not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reasons-offered-1855-version-cover.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44066\" width=\"481\" height=\"493\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reasons-offered-1855-version-cover.png 679w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Reasons-offered-1855-version-cover-439x450.png 439w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 481px) 100vw, 481px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The text presented here is my modernized version of the 1855 reprint of <em>Reasons Offered<\/em> in <a aria-label=\"this interesting book (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/books\/edition\/Trinitarian_Faith_Examined\/p1AXAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">this interesting book<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities357.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"The First Baptist Church in America (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">The First Baptist Church in America<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities357.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"First Unitarian Church of Providence (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">First Unitarian Church of Providence<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Samuel_Eddy\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Samuel Eddy @ wikipedia (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Samuel Eddy @ wikipedia<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.findagrave.com\/memorial\/7254520\/samuel-eddy\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Samuel Eddy's tombstone in Providence (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Samuel Eddy&#8217;s tombstone in Providence<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-357-seminary-student-takes-trinity-class-becomes-unitarian-part-2\/\">podcast 357 \u2013 Seminary student takes Trinity class, becomes unitarian \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-356-seminary-student-takes-trinity-class-becomes-unitarian-part-1\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 356 \u2013 Seminary student takes Trinity class, becomes unitarian \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-191-wares-outline-of-the-testimony-of-scripture-against-the-trinity\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"podcast 191 \u2013 Ware\u2019s Outline of the Testimony of Scripture Against the Trinity (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 191 \u2013 Ware\u2019s Outline of the Testimony of Scripture Against the Trinity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-309-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-2\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 309 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-308-channings-unitarian-christianity-part-1\/\">podcast 308 \u2013 Channing\u2019s \u201cUnitarian Christianity\u201d \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-201-kermit-zarley-on-reformation-part-2\/\">podcast 201 \u2013 Kermit Zarley on Reformation \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-200-kermit-zarley-on-reformation-part-1\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 200 \u2013 Kermit Zarley on Reformation \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-349-craig-tuggy-dialogue-on-trinitarian-vs-unitarian-theologies\/\">podcast 349 \u2013 Craig-Tuggy dialogue on trinitarian vs. unitarian theologies<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-168-the-death-of-unitarian-congregationalism\/\">podcast 168 \u2013 The Death of Unitarian Congregationalism<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-167-lamsons-history-of-the-unitarian-congregationalists\/\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 167 \u2013 Lamson\u2019s History of The Unitarian Congregationalists<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Luke 4:16; 1 Peter 2:21; John 16:2; Acts 18:21, 24; Acts 11:3; Acts 1:5, 12, 21, 27; 1 Corinthians 15:12, 34; 1 Corinthians 1:2, 6, 11, 15, 34; Acts 8:37; Romans 10:9, 14; Romans 4:17-18; Philippians 3:15-16; Romans 15:7; 1 Corinthians 7:19; Ephesians 5:20; Colossians 3:16-17; Hebrews 13:15; John 18:37; 2 Timothy 1:10; John 17:3; Acts 19:2; Matthew 3:11; Acts 24:14, 18, 13; John 17:3; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; Luke 10:21, 23, 46; John 20:17; Matthew 27:4; Mark 9:36; Mark 12:29, 32; John 5:18-19, 30; John 10:30, 36; Mark 12:32; Mark 10:18; 1 Corinthians 8:4, 6; Ephesians 4:5-6; Ephesians 1:17; 1 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Corinthians 3:23; Romans 6:10; 2 Corinthians 13:4; John 6:57; 1 Corinthians 15:28; 1 Timothy 6:15-16; Jude 4; Acts 4:24, 26-27; Acts 17:24, 29; Luke 10:21; Mark 13:19; Isaiah 44:24; Isaiah 44:12; 1 John 5:20; Hebrews 1:2, 4 ,6 ,9; Hebrews 2:9, 17; Colossians 1:15, 19; John 1:18; John 4:10; Matthew 16:16; Revelation 3:4; Acts 2:36; Acts 5:31; Acts 17:31; Ephesians 1:22; Philippians 2:9; Jude 4; 1 Timothy 6:15-16; 1 John 2:22-23; Matthew 9:8; John 20:23; Exodus 23:20-21; Luke 5:17; Luke 2:40; Acts 2:22; Acts 10:38; Matthew 12:28; Luke 21:20; John 14:10; Matthew 6:6, 9; John 16:23; John 4:22, 24.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/files\/Haskel\/64588\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Bluenotation (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Bluenotation<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"http:\/\/dig.ccmixter.org\/people\/Haskel\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Ezra Skull (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Ezra Skull<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A thoughtful Baptist confronts his church about biblical vs. later teachings about God, Jesus, and heresy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":44063,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[21,16,15,58,4,14,55,38,57,77,7,43],"tags":[103],"class_list":["post-44058","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bible","category-books","category-christology","category-creeds","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-history","category-holy-spirit","category-monotheism","category-podcast","category-protestant","category-quotes","category-unitarianism","tag-baptist"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44058","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44058"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44058\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44073,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44058\/revisions\/44073"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44063"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44058"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44058"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44058"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}