{"id":44319,"date":"2023-07-03T18:47:41","date_gmt":"2023-07-03T23:47:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=44319"},"modified":"2023-07-03T18:47:44","modified_gmt":"2023-07-03T23:47:44","slug":"podcast-367-smith-and-barlow-vs-nesan-and-essary-debate-is-jesus-yahweh-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-367-smith-and-barlow-vs-nesan-and-essary-debate-is-jesus-yahweh-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 367 &#8211; Smith and Barlow vs. Nesan and Essary debate &#8211; Is Jesus Yahweh? &#8211; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_6059\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-44319-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities367.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities367.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities367.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities367.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=44319-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities367.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities367.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/con-side-cr.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44321\" width=\"742\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/con-side-cr.png 966w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/con-side-cr-450x162.png 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/con-side-cr-768x277.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 742px) 100vw, 742px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this episode you&#8217;ll hear my edit of <strong>the second, longer half of this excellent debate<\/strong>: two rounds of cross-examinations, closing statements, and audience Q&amp;A. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Which side surprised you? <strong>What arguments here struck you as important?<\/strong> Did either side make important mistakes? Which side made the overall strongest case? Leave us a comment below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And after you listen you can check out the <strong>post-debate reflections<\/strong> of Barlow and Smith on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@transfigured3673\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Transfigured (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Transfigured<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Will Barlow and Dustin Smith - Debate Review: Is Jesus YHWH? Samuel Nesan\/Kyle Essary\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Uy7gvfE-YKs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And see the first two links below, where Sean Finnegan and Brandon Duke <strong>continue the argument<\/strong> on the Restitutio podcast, rebutting the arguments of the &#8220;pro&#8221; side in this debate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"477\" height=\"95\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/logo2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44328\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/logo2.png 477w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/logo2-450x90.png 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 477px) 100vw, 477px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2023\/04\/13\/491-refuting-kyle-essarys-case-that-jesus-is-yahweh\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"491 Refuting Kyle Essary\u2019s Case That Jesus Is Yahweh (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>491 Refuting Kyle Essary\u2019s Case That Jesus Is Yahweh<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a aria-label=\"492 Refuting Samuel Nesan\u2019s Case That Jesus Is Yahweh (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2023\/04\/21\/492-refuting-samuel-nesans-case-that-jesus-is-yahweh\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>492 Refuting Samuel Nesan\u2019s Case That Jesus Is Yahweh<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@tgtengage\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"ek-link\">Marlon Wilson\u2019s YouTube channel The Gospel Truth<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=iSPU45IWErA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the original debate video: Dustin Smith\/William Barlow Vs Samuel Nesan\/Kyle Essary: Jesus is Yahweh? EP 263<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/biblicalunitarianpodcast.podbean.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Biblical Unitarian Podcast<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/explaininternational.com\/team-members\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Samuel Nesan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/malaysiagospel.org\/article-author\/kyle-essary\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Dr. Kyle Essary<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/compasslou.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Compass Christian Church in Louisville<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=46TvgJa1wlg\" target=\"_blank\">Will Barlow \u2013 Biblical Unitarian Church Planter<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/papajohns-1024x392.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44323\" width=\"309\" height=\"118\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/papajohns-1024x392.png 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/papajohns-450x172.png 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/papajohns-768x294.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/papajohns-1536x588.png 1536w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/papajohns-2048x784.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 309px) 100vw, 309px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/jude-5-did-jesus-deliver-the-people-out-of-egypt\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Jude 5: Did Jesus deliver the people out of Egypt? (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\"><strong>Jude 5: Did Jesus deliver the people out of Egypt?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Montana\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Montana (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Montana<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/letter\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>A letter from the Lord Jesus: About God and Me<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-264-tuggy-vs-date-debate-jesus-is-human-and-not-divine-part-2\/\">podcast 264 \u2013 Tuggy vs. Date debate \u2013 Jesus is human and not divine \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-263-tuggy-vs-date-debate-jesus-is-human-and-not-divine-part-1\/\">podcast 263 \u2013 Tuggy vs. Date debate \u2013 Jesus is human and not divine \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Unitarian Christian Alliance<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-124-a-challenge-to-jesus-is-god-apologists\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"podcast 124 \u2013 a challenge to \u201cJesus is God\u201d apologists (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 124 \u2013 a challenge to \u201cJesus is God\u201d apologists<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week\u2019s thinking music is&nbsp;&#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/Sky_Ship\/Jesse_Spillane_-_Sky_Ship_-_09_Strength_of_Knowing\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Strength of Knowing (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Strength of Knowing<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Jesse_Spillane\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Jesse Spillane (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Jesse Spillane<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cross-examinations, closing statements, and audience Q&#038;A &#8211; with post-debate links.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":44321,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,54,33,106,57,95],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44319","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-debates","category-incarnation","category-jude","category-podcast","category-uca"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44319","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44319"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44319\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44331,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44319\/revisions\/44331"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44321"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44319"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44319"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44319"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}