{"id":44583,"date":"2024-03-13T20:05:16","date_gmt":"2024-03-14T01:05:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=44583"},"modified":"2024-03-13T20:05:20","modified_gmt":"2024-03-14T01:05:20","slug":"podcast-377-debate-is-jesus-yahweh-white-vs-tuggy-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-377-debate-is-jesus-yahweh-white-vs-tuggy-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 377 &#8211; Debate: Is Jesus Yahweh? White vs. Tuggy &#8211; Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_8500\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-44583-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities377.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities377.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities377.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities377.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=44583-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities377.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities377.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"494\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v.-White-1-1024x494.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44586\" style=\"width:563px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v.-White-1-1024x494.png 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v.-White-1-450x217.png 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v.-White-1-768x371.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v.-White-1.png 1177w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This episode contains the <strong>Pro and Con opening statements and rebuttals<\/strong> from the debate on March 9, 2024 between James White and Dale Tuggy in Houston, Texas. The debate question is &#8220;Is Jesus Yahweh?&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Which side makes the stronger opening arguments? Which side does a better job at rebutting the other&#8217;s opening arguments?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because of our many slides, the <strong>fully edited video<\/strong> version below is recommended. (However, the above podcast audio-only version above has some groovy Thinking Music in between the segments.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Dale Tuggy and James White debate: &quot;Is Jesus YHWH?&quot; (best quality, with slides)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ky2SaHscSIo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>My thanks to<\/strong> the host Pastor and Moderator Evan McClanahan of <a aria-label=\"First Lutheran Houston (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/flhouston.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">First Lutheran Houston<\/a>, <a aria-label=\"James White (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aomin.org\/aoblog\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">James White<\/a>, the <a aria-label=\"UCA Podcast (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/podcast.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">UCA Podcast<\/a>&#8216;s host and producer Mark Cain, who masterfully cleaned up the source audio, and UCA Board Member Brandon Duke, who produced the video above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"461\" height=\"504\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v-White-2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44588\" style=\"width:345px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v-White-2.png 461w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Tuggy-v-White-2-412x450.png 412w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 461px) 100vw, 461px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1drv.ms\/b\/s!AvWPAaQBbkKy5YIAMX2xK3U6eK3GYA?e=dsNX4L\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"pdf of Tuggy's opening Con statement (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">pdf of Tuggy&#8217;s opening Con statement<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/letter\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"A letter from the Lord Jesus: About God and Me (Revised) (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">A letter from the Lord Jesus: About God and Me (Revised)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-344-craigs-contradictory-christ-part-2\/\">podcast 344 \u2013 Craig\u2019s Contradictory Christ \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-343-craigs-contradictory-christ-part-1\/\">podcast 343 \u2013 Craig\u2019s Contradictory Christ \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-341-reflections-on-my-debate-with-dr-andrew-loke\/\">podcast 341 \u2013 Reflections on my debate with Dr. Andrew Loke<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-340-does-the-new-testament-teach-that-jesus-is-truly-divine-loke-vs-tuggy-part-2\/\">podcast 340 \u2013 Does the New Testament teach that Jesus is truly divine? \u2013 Loke vs. Tuggy \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-339-does-the-new-testament-teach-that-jesus-is-truly-divine-loke-vs-tuggy-part-1\/\">podcast 339 \u2013 Does the New Testament teach that Jesus is truly divine? \u2013 Loke vs. Tuggy \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-87-kermit-zarley-on-the-deity-and-preexistence-of-jesus\/\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"podcast 87 \u2013 Kermit Zarley on the deity and preexistence of Jesus (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">podcast 87 \u2013 Kermit Zarley on the deity and preexistence of Jesus<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-332-emlyns-humble-inquiry\/\">podcast 332 \u2013 Emlyn\u2019s Humble Inquiry<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=c35_uFjEbx8&amp;t=4607s\" target=\"_blank\" aria-label=\"Debate - &quot;Is Jesus Human and not Divine?&quot; - Dr. Dale Tuggy vs. Chris Date (opens in a new tab)\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Debate &#8211; &#8220;Is Jesus Human and not Divine?&#8221; &#8211; Dr. Dale Tuggy vs. Chris Date<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-144-dr-timothy-pawls-defense-conciliar-christology-part-2\/\">podcast 144 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-143-dr-timothy-pawls-in-defense-of-conciliar-christology-part-1\/\">podcast 143 \u2013 Dr. Timothy Pawl\u2019s In Defense of Conciliar Christology \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a aria-label=\"Tuff (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/van-loon\/jazz-funk-huh-vol-3\/tuff\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Tuff<\/a>&#8221; by <a aria-label=\"Van Loon (opens in a new tab)\" href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/van-loon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" class=\"ek-link\">Van Loon<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A new debate: opening statements and rebuttals.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":44586,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,54,4,33,110,9,57,94,95,43,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44583","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-debates","category-heresy-orthodoxy","category-incarnation","category-james-white","category-philosophy","category-podcast","category-socinian","category-uca","category-unitarianism","category-worship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44583","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44583"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44583\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44598,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44583\/revisions\/44598"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44586"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44583"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44583"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44583"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}