{"id":44873,"date":"2025-03-10T15:29:04","date_gmt":"2025-03-10T20:29:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=44873"},"modified":"2025-03-10T16:22:19","modified_gmt":"2025-03-10T21:22:19","slug":"podcast-389-the-cost-of-truth-stories-of-biblical-unitarian-christians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-389-the-cost-of-truth-stories-of-biblical-unitarian-christians\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 389 &#8211; The Cost of Truth: Stories of Biblical Unitarian Christians"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_4956\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-44873-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities389.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities389.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities389.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities389.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=44873-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities389.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities389.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"611\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1-611x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44878\" style=\"width:396px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1-611x1024.png 611w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1-268x450.png 268w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1-768x1288.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1-916x1536.png 916w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1-1221x2048.png 1221w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/Cost-of-Truth-Book-Harbin-et-al-1.png 1619w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 611px) 100vw, 611px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>When you&#8217;re from a trinitarian Christian tradition<\/strong>, whether or not a doctrine of the Trinity is <em>really <\/em>in the Bible is more than an intellectual question. For one thing, there is the fear: am I angering God by asking these questions? And another huge factor is the <strong>peer pressure<\/strong>: it&#8217;s part of catholic traditions to harshly exclude, with little to no discussion, people who will not <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-232-trinity-club-orientation\/\">pay lip service to<\/a> &#8220;the doctrine of the Trinity.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the other hand, there are <strong>Christians who&#8217;ve always had the blessing of being in a biblical unitarian <\/strong>group like the <a href=\"http:\/\/christadelphia.org\/belief.php\">Christadelphians<\/a> or the <a href=\"https:\/\/coggc.org\/\">Church of God General Conference<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then there are those who are blessed to be in a unitarian Christian group, <em>but <\/em>it is a high-control one, and they have to carefully work their way free from it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this new book, you&#8217;ll read <strong>the testimonies of eight unitarian Christians<\/strong>, each with a unique story. If you&#8217;re on any of these journeys, you&#8217;ll find things to relate to here. This episode is my interview with contributor and instigator <strong>Seneca Harbin<\/strong>, my wife <strong>Candise Tuggy<\/strong>, who contributed a chapter, and <strong>Anna Brown<\/strong>, who helped in the publication of this book for <a href=\"https:\/\/lhim.org\/\">Living Hope International Ministries<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The subject is heavy, but as you&#8217;ll hear Seneca and his co-authors approach it with<strong> faith, hope, love, and a good sense of humor<\/strong>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Cost-Truth-Biblical-Unitarian-Christians\/dp\/1736918052\"><strong>The Cost of Truth: Stories of Biblical Unitarian Christians<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/\"><strong>Unitarian Christian Alliance<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/unitarianchristianalliance.org\/ucaukintconference2025\">UCA 2025 UK International Conference<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/convergefest.com\/\">Converge<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/2024\/10\/11\/569-the-cost-of-truth-seneca-harbin\/\">Restitutio Podcast 569 The Cost of Truth (Seneca Harbin)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/coggc.org\/\"><strong>Church of God General Conference<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/new.coggc.org\/who-we-are\/\">Seth Ross @ Church of God General Conference<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/christiancenteredcounseling.org\/\">Christian Centered Counseling<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/33-my-trinitarian-best-friend-amanda-dunn\">UCA Podcast 33 My Trinitarian Best Friend &#8211; Amanda Dunn (Part 1)<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.unitarianchristianalliance.org\/34-my-homeschooling-nail-biter-amanda-dunn\"><strong>UCA Podcast 34 My Homeschooling Nail-biter &#8211; Amanda Dunn (Part 2)<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-357-seminary-student-takes-trinity-class-becomes-unitarian-part-2\/\">podcast 357 \u2013 Seminary student takes Trinity class, becomes unitarian \u2013 Part 2<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-356-seminary-student-takes-trinity-class-becomes-unitarian-part-1\/\">podcast 356 \u2013 Seminary student takes Trinity class, becomes unitarian \u2013 Part 1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-333-the-arguments-of-gods-death\/\">podcast 333 \u2013 The Arguments of \u201cGod\u2019s Death\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/JsOBFbUcB98?si=WQ5Mjzaowzy9VpJZ\">Susanne Lakin &#8211; Biblical Anthropomorphism &#8211; Evidence of a Unipersonal God<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zGtX_T4dq-A\"><strong>Anna Brown &#8211; No Mere Man: Biblical Anthropology as Response to Psilanthropism &#8211; UCA Conference 2022<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/stfi.org\/meet-the-team\/\">John Schoenheit @ Spirit &amp; Truth<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-232-trinity-club-orientation\/\">podcast 232 \u2013 Trinity Club Orientation<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"From Trinity to One God - by Bill &amp; Stephanie Schlegel\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9LA9Uq-8xMc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; 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