{"id":44912,"date":"2025-09-07T22:06:09","date_gmt":"2025-09-08T03:06:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?p=44912"},"modified":"2025-09-07T22:06:12","modified_gmt":"2025-09-08T03:06:12","slug":"podcast-392-jesus-temptations-and-ours-part-2-things-apologists-say","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-392-jesus-temptations-and-ours-part-2-things-apologists-say\/","title":{"rendered":"podcast 392 &#8211; Jesus&#8217; Temptations and Ours &#8211; Part 2 &#8211; Things Apologists Say"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_7294\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-44912-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities392.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities392.mp3\">http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities392.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities392.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/?powerpress_pinw=44912-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/trinities\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/podcast\/trinities392.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"trinities392.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/7FuUF9DZM3zhtN41n6RJ6l\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p><div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"677\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-9-677x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44913\" style=\"width:364px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-9-677x1024.png 677w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-9-298x450.png 298w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-9.png 748w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 677px) 100vw, 677px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Both of the arguments below are <a href=\"https:\/\/rintintin.colorado.edu\/~vancecd\/phil1440\/validity.pdf\">valid<\/a>. But which one is <a href=\"https:\/\/rintintin.colorado.edu\/~vancecd\/phil1440\/validity.pdf\">sound<\/a>? (By the definition of validity it&#8217;s impossible that <em>both <\/em>are sound.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Argument #1:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>God can\u2019t be tempted.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jesus <em>was <\/em>tempted.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Therefore, Jesus is <em>not <\/em>God<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Argument #2:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>God can\u2019t be tempted.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Jesus is God.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Therefore, Jesus was <em>not<\/em> tempted.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In this talk I argue that <strong>Scripture requires that <\/strong>we endorse the first argument as sound.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I then interact with a bunch of standard, what I call &#8220;canned,&#8221; <strong>answers that apologists<\/strong> dish out on these topics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is the video version from <a href=\"https:\/\/21stcr.org\/\">21stcr.org<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"nv-iframe-embed\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Is Jesus God if He Was Tempted? - By Dr. Dale Tuggy\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/MuDXEZyA0Bw?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Links for this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"716\" src=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-10-1024x716.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-44914\" style=\"width:396px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-10-1024x716.png 1024w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-10-450x315.png 450w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-10-768x537.png 768w, https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-10.png 1205w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/letter\/\"><strong>A letter from the Lord Jesus: About God and Me<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=GJCZervdJEk&amp;t=2s\">The biblical Jesus is not fully divine<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/c35_uFjEbx8?si=kV__iDYwjnsLXN7U\">Debate &#8211; &#8220;Is Jesus Human and not Divine?&#8221; &#8211; Dr. Dale Tuggy vs. Chris Date<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-334-who-do-you-say-i-am\/\"><strong>Trinities podcast 334 \u2013 \u201cWho do you say I am?\u201d<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-277-was-christ-tempted-in-every-way\/\">Trinities podcast 277 \u2013 Was Christ tempted in every way?<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/podcast-145-tis-mystery-immortal-dies\/\">Trinities podcast 145 \u2013 \u2018Tis Mystery All: the Immortal dies<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/restitutio.org\/\">Restitutio Podcast<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>This week&#8217;s thinking music is &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Ketsa\/cc-by-free-to-use-for-anything\/my-town\/\">My Town<\/a>&#8221; by <a href=\"https:\/\/freemusicarchive.org\/music\/Ketsa\/\">Ketsa<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When canned answers don&#8217;t work.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":44916,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[37,21,15,6,57],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44912","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-apologetics","category-bible","category-christology","category-complaints","category-podcast"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44912","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44912"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44912\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":44931,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44912\/revisions\/44931"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44916"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44912"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44912"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/trinities.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44912"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}